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  1. Why is there any talk of smokescreens? Like are the Jags and Jets are so impressed by Shanny's offensive IQ that they both draft Jones and we snag Lawrence? Lawrence goes one. You can not sacrifice that much draft capital to "hope" with smokescreens and parlor tricks that your guy is there at three. We either know the Jet's plan or are perfectly happy with two other QB's. Nothing else logically resonates.

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  2. Some perspective about drafting a QB in the first round, and mind you, I love Kyle taking his shot at what he sees as his QB. I'm hoping for the best, but also crossing my fingers as I spend way too much time pondering who the pick is and why it will effect the next ten years of our program when in the last ten years across the NFL, it's kind of a crapshoot...

    32  Total QB's drafted in the first round, of them...

    8 Out of the league/free agent

    11 Backups

    5 Starter caliber 

    6 Starter/Potential Franchise, and the potential is also linked to them being drafted in the last three years.

    2 Star/Franchise QB's

     

    First round QB picks in the last ten years.

    Star/Franchise QB, Starter/Potential Franchise, Starter, Backup, Out of the league/free agent

    2011: CAM NEWTON* (PANTHERS)**, JAKE LOCKER (TITANS), BLAINE GABBERT (JAGUARS), CHRISTIAN PONDER (VIKINGS) 

    2012: ANDREW LUCK* (COLTS), ROBERT GRIFFIN III (REDSKINS), RYAN TANNEHILL (DOLPHINS), BRANDON WEEDEN (BROWNS)

    2013: EJ MANUEL (BILLS)

    2014: BLAKE BORTLES (JAGUARS), JOHNNY MANZIEL (BROWNS), TEDDY BRIDGEWATER (VIKINGS)**

    2015: JAMEIS WINSTON (BUCCANEERS), MARCUS MARIOTA (TITANS) 

    2016: JARED GOFF (RAMS), CARSON WENTZ (EAGLES), PAXTON LYNCH (BRONCOS)

    2017: MITCHELL TRUBISKY (BEARS), PATRICK MAHOMES (CHIEFS), DESHAUN WATSON (TEXANS)

    2018:BAKER MAYFIELD (BROWNS), SAM DARNOLD (JETS)**, JOSH ALLEN (BILLS), JOSH ROSEN (CARDINALS), LAMAR JACKSON (RAVENS)

    2019: KYLER MURRAY (CARDINALS), DANIEL JONES (GIANTS), DWAYNE HASKINS (WASHINGTON)

    2020: JOE BURROW (BENGALS), TUA TAGOVAILOA (DOLPHINS), JUSTIN HERBERT (CHARGERS), JORDAN LOVE (PACKERS)

    *Was something better than what he is now

    **Will probably be a backup

    You all may have other grades/thoughts on QB's but I think this is fairly accurate.

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  3. 1 hour ago, Chrissooner49er said:

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    Now THAT is the mentality & attitude a QB should have, starter or scout team. 

    I still would have NO problem with him at 3 and I do think someone could have traded up to get him before us or Carolina (12 or 8, respectively). After the trade up? That is no longer possible. 

    Wilson, Jones, Fields are my 123 choices for #3. Not likely to change, either. 

    Unless as a Scout team QB, he was supposed to emulate a short to intermediate passer to get the defense ready for the next game. Throwing bombs would be a **** move.

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  4. 10 hours ago, Forge said:

    I legitimately don't understand the juice thing at all. 

    I get that he's an absolute Swiss army knife, and can so many things traditional fullbacks can't. Deep wheel route!!! It seems that his blocking has tapered off, and maybe it's because Kittle wasn't around, but can't we scout and find our own Juice to craft into exactly what he is best at? Doesn't seem like the rest of the league is in the market for that.

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  5. If he really wants out, he should drop his no trade clause. Sucks for him to lose that leverage, but it would allow the Texans to get their best haul. Or find something else he is really passionate about for the year and force their hand next year after sitting it out. I know Le'Veon Bell had more wear on his body and it's a different situation, but I wonder if his struggles after sitting will frighten, or caution teams.

  6. 2 hours ago, NinerNation21 said:

    Taylor Mays was fun in Madden, but what made Lewis so fun for me was a glitch I discovered in one of the early 2000's editions. I found that on kickoffs, if I used the guy who was like a person or two away from the kicker on the kickoff team and hold down the sprint button and loop all the way to the sideline, no one would ever pick my guy up. So, it was always an automatic tackle at 10 or 15. 

    Keith Lewis was the guy in that formation. This is how I got him 150 tackles and a pro-bowl nod every year 😀

     

    But in all seriousness, Tony Parrish was my guy IRL. Man, he looked like a ninja turtle with his bald head and he was a beast safety. 

    My brother in law was working for Nextel or Motorola when they were sponsors for the Niners back in the day, and he scored my pops and I tickets to the Niners draft party. It was the 2005 Alex Smith draft. Got to meet Alley-oop Owens and YA Tittle. YA wore a leather helmet in a picture with my dad - awesome. Anyway, had lunch with Tony Parrish, and by god, he was a mountain of a man. Absolutely cool guy, but a neck that seemed bigger than his head. 

  7. On 1/21/2021 at 11:03 AM, J-ALL-DAY said:

    Still 2019, better in coverage and that's ultimately what matters more. 

    Enjoying the debate, but could you both be right? Take both defenses and transplant them into the other's year...would they be as successful in that year's context...rules...styles of play etc. I think about how frightening a backfield of Lott and Night Train Lane would be, but they would be severely limited by today's protective rules. 

    Fun watch of **** "Night Train" Lane

  8. "NFL owners approved a proposal that will reward teams for developing minority coaches and front office executives who go on to become head coaches and general managers for other organizations, Commissioner Roger Goodell announced Tuesday."

    Washington is interviewing Martin Mayhew for their GM job. If he lands it, I believe it counts for two more third round picks for us. Not a fan of losing so much of our front office...but...

  9. On 1/11/2021 at 7:17 PM, 49ersfan said:

    Kyle Shanahan has been our HC for 4 seasons. He was the last HC hired in his hiring cycle due to coaching in the SB. He's already the tenth most tenured HC 

    1. Bill Billichek, Patriots

    2. Sean Payton, Saints

    3. Mike Tomlin, Steelers

    4. John Harbaugh, Ravens

    5. Pete Carroll, Seahawks

    6. Andy Reid, Chiefs

    7. Mike Zimmer, Vikings

    8. Sean McDermott, Bills

    9. Sean McVay, Rams

    10. Kyle Shanahan, 49ers

    Wow

     

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