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  1. On 4/12/2021 at 1:34 PM, Jeezla said:

    Over the whole season, they were average. Baker had 2 games over 300 passing yards. He's a game manager. If Baker Mayfield was your fantasy qb, you missed the playoffs, period.


    You can call the passing game average. I'm cool with that, though I think it's a little above average especially towards the end of the year.

    But I question your definition of a game manager. I'd argue Baker is the exact opposite. Game managers tend to throw short passes for 5 yards when it's 3rd and long, or throw the ball away, or take a lot of checkdowns during drives and avoid throwing the ball into tight windows. Their entire purpose is to avoid losing the game by limiting turnovers and battling for field position.

    Baker is the exact opposite. He throws lasers into his receivers hands in tight coverage. He throws downfield on third and longs and is generally aggressive with his passing both in and out of the pocket. Just because the running game is elite (which limited his passing attempts) doesn't mean he's a game manager or has that style of passing at all. You can easily view completed air yards per completion and see that he ranks higher than the average QB (9th I believe, but that's off the top of my head).

    Not to mention Baker had 40 less total passing attempts than Aaron Rodgers, which is 2.5 less pass attempts per game in a run-first offense. So even if you call him a game manager based on passing attempts (he was 17th in the league), the fact that he was so close to A-Rod might say otherwise.

    Honestly, the "game manager" take about Baker just seems to come from people who don't actually watch him play. He's muuuuch more Brett Favre-like in terms of slinging the ball than being a guy trying to avoid turnovers.

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  2. On 2/13/2021 at 1:45 AM, Nightime said:

    The Ravens are a running team and Tampa had the best run defense in the league. The Ravens could try throwing the ball, but the Ravens pass offense was ranked 32nd and Tampa just beat the top rated passing offense in the SB...

    I don’t think Tampa would have much issue with Baltimore. They are faster and more physical than Buffalo’s defense at all levels

    The Ravens aren't an ordinary running team.

    My money's on Tampa too vs any AFC team but I do think the Ravens would have a chance. Lamar can make even the best defenses look worse. A team being better doesn't mean they always win.

  3. I think the Ravens play them well (though I think the Ravens would play just about anyone well). Lamar is just a different type of player to defend against and could cause problems for that Bucs defense. And the Ravens have the defense (secondary at least) that could hold its own.

    After that I'd say the Browns and Titans - but both their defenses would likely get annihilated by the Bucs offense.

    I pick Bucs over any AFC team but I do think the Ravens have a decent shot at taking them down.

  4. I hope he feels heat and ends up getting fired.

    I remember when Ravens fans were talking about firing Harbaugh after 2017. I was praying they would... but nope. Drafted Lamar and the rest is history.

    AFC North teams: fire your good coaches, please. Nothing would make Browns fans happier. The journey to finding a new competent head coach could be long and daunting.

  5. 1 hour ago, Tk3 said:

    I assume you are talking from a Browns perspective?

    That post you quoted was from a week ago. I had you as the underdog against Ten, so having won that game puts you into a near lock

    As for Baltimore, I would say they are probably 2 TD favorites against the Bengals, Jags, and Cowboys, and at least a 7 point favorite against the Giants at home. The odds of them winning all 4 of those games is probably higher than the odds of them losing even 1.

    And Baltimore @ Cleveland is probably a push. I know Cleveland fans will find that disrespectful, but its how I feel.

    The chances of them finishing at 11-5 are probably better than any wildcard team besides the Browns. The Browns beating the Titans was a gamechanger and puts them in a near-lock position


    I still think Miami and Oakland are the two who are left out

    Nah, it's not disrespectful. Baltimore hit a really rough patch but we all know what they're capable of. I'm just happy that the Browns are improving and not looking like the pushover/fraud that everyone has been spewing for some time now.

    I predicted Cleveland at 9-7 before the season started and I'm one of the optimistic Browns fans, so this season has been awesome for me. 11-5 is well within reach (but not a sure bet obviously) and the possibility of 12-4 blows my mind.

  6. 23 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said:

    I think its entirely possible and perfectly fine to admit that Bakers just performs better without OBJ. When OBJ isnt out there Baker plays more freely. It doesnt mean that OBJ is bad or that Baker is bad I just dont think the fit worked.

    When OBJ is not on the field I think Baker doesnt have the pressure to force the ball to OBJ

    It's hard to say for sure if Baker is just better without OBJ since there are variables involved (quality of opp, etc...). But I hear your point.

    I also think it's worth noting on that mic'd up of Baker where he throws a TD to someone  during the WFT game and he ran over to OBJ and Landry and told them to be patient.

    We can't say whether or not they're actually putting pressure on Baker, but that clearly shows that it's in Baker's head to get those guys the ball. At least with Landry he has chemistry, but he has zero chemistry with OBJ and that could be the issue.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said:

    Yeah I don't know if this is true. Sure he gets open occasionally without getting a target but he doesn't seem to do it often or even regularly.

    I watched the All-22 film breakdown of every Baker throw (from the Cowboys to Steelers) and I was shocked to see how much OBJ actually gets open. I honestly didn't expect to see it so much but I'm sure if WE see it then the coaches + Baker see it too when they review the film.

  8. 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

    Yeah he’s had like 2 big games in a year and a half.

    I won’t say it’s all on OBJ or whatever, but facts are facts.


    It seems like people assume we are blaming OBJ for the lack of production and that's far from the case. Sometimes it just doesn't mesh. And the worst part is that OBJ is so good and gets open so much (Baker knows this) that I know Baker was dying to get him the ball. Which probably led to many issues.

    Higgins and Baker mesh. We all know Higgins is no OBJ but we as fans have probably underestimated how important the QB-WR chemistry can be. Those back shoulder throws were like music between the two and that's what we need to help establish that rhythm for Baker.

  9. 7 hours ago, warfelg said:

    I expect a blowout one way or another TBH.

    Come on warfelg, you know better lol. I expect a feisty, close game.

    Browns offense: One thing that scares me is that how much Pittsburgh likes to blitz. These aren't your grandpa's blitzes either - they're well designed and executed. Up until this point the Browns have mainly faced 4-man rushes with a little blitzing sprinkled in. Will Baker commit turnovers? Will the Steelers give up bigger plays? How will they balance defending the run vs. the pass in the well prepared Stefanski wide zone offense? So many question marks up until this point. I have a bad feeling about our PA rollouts - I can see someone like Watt disrupting all of it.

    Browns defense: So far the Browns have generated a ton of pressure with just 4-man rushes and zone coverage, trying to imitate the legion of boom Seahawks defense. Our talent is nowhere near that, which leads to huge mistakes in the secondary that a QB like Ben can feast on. Attack our safeties down the field and you'll wind up with 30 points - simple as that. The only reason the Browns defense has been forcing turnovers is because of the play of the defensive line. Myles is having a fantastic year. Will he be able to pressure Ben into turnovers, or will Ben tear apart the sloppy zone coverage of the Browns defense?


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  10. 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

    Wow, this thread aged well over the last month 😂 

    People are prisoners of the moment. On full-blown emotional tilts week by week - honestly not sure how they survive every day.

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  11. Gardner Minshew doesn't have a great offensive line or weapons either. D.J. Chark is all he got, and even when D.J has missed time Minshew didn't look as bad as Darnold has.

    Jets defense > Jags defense too. I feel like people are just clinging onto Darnold and will use every excuse possible just because they had him valued highly as a franchise QB and don't want to be wrong about him.

  12. I get that Darnold is in a bad situation but he's nowhere near the first QB to have it rough. I've watched 20 years of Browns QBs in horrendous situations with nothing at the skill positions, O-line, coaches, organization, etc... and none of them seemed to generate the kind of sympathy that I've seen given to Darnold. Is it because he's in NY?

    I don't exactly feel 'sorry' for him in that sense. It happens and it's gonna continue to happen in the league. Given his situation I don't think he's performed badly at all so I also don't understand the people that want to trash him.


  13. 1 hour ago, Ray Reed said:

    Lol yeah, the last time that happened was against TEN so I'd rather us not do that either tbh

    And about the reporter that doesn't surprise me sadly, sports beat writers do that so much nowadays just to drum up headlines

    Tons of people can't stand Mary Kay Cabot. She's a terrible beat reporter.

    Richardson's comments were sorta taken out of context. He was repeatedly asked about Lamar again and again and what he expected them to do even after he said Lamar is 'videogame good', saying it's like playing Madden.. Still could've been worded better with the Aaron Rodgers bit, but his point was that he expected the Ravens to play to their strengths and run the ball.

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  14. 42 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said:

    Terrence Mitchell is a viable fill in short term for greedy

    I'd argue Money Mitch has been BETTER than Greedy all of last year and in camp this year. He's such an underrated player for us.

    MJ Stewart has had a great camp as well. CB is our deepest position on defense so I'm not TOO worried unless we suffer another injury. Kevin Johnson is recovering well and may only miss a few games, and who knows maybe Greedy returns week 2 or 3.

  15. 3 hours ago, MWil23 said:

    I'll be honest, I'd like to see us slow the game down as much as possible, limit possessions, and really rely heavily on that ground and pound attack, regardless of the score in the first half. We should see a run/pass ratio of about 2/1 for a good majority of the game, with a lot of safe play-action passes to TE, outside WR on boots and designed rollouts with flood concepts, and perhaps take a few vertical shots to keep their safeties back and honest in the running game.

    Baker may very well light it up this year, but I'd play it safe against a team that is a legit Super Bowl contender with the reigning MVP who will likely carve up our already bad and now decimated defense, coming off of a short off-season, limited practice time, new coaching staff and scheme, and has the advantage of continuity going into this matchup, especially with us on the road.

    I want to see a close game in the second half and see how the chips fall from there.

    I agree in that I'd like to see us rely on the ground. But I wanna see some big, downfield passes off the PA. I think it's important to try to get some quick scoring drives off chunk plays, as that would put a lot of pressure on Lamar Jackson to beat us with his arm (not that he can't, but the Ravens are clearly a much better team with the dual threat).

    I think Marlon Humphrey is underrated but his strength is his physicality. I think OBJ could get him over the top a couple times.

  16. 11 hours ago, candyman93 said:

    Ronnie Harrison just said Joe Woods prefers running cover 1. So that means Man-to-man. 

    Schematically it is the best coverage in the NFL, but easily the hardest. However, when it works, you get 2019 Patriots defense level of good.


    Which also means we should freaking sign Earl Thomas because he made a HOF career being a cover 1 FS.


    It's interesting that he said that. I hope we don't exclusively run man-to-man vs. the Ravens.

    Lamar eats man-to-man defense up for breakfast. It's how Wade Phillips got torched - all the DBs have their backs turned covering their assignments and Lamar is 20 yards down the field before they even realize it.

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