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  1. 47 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

    From what I’ve read anyway he’s apparently lacking in the physicality/strength department.

    Obviously that can be improved, but he needs to get on it.

    He has the shoulders of an 8 year old boy. It has been over a year now and he looks no different than when he was drafted. I know we've gotta give him a little more time but if I were betting I'd say he's gonna bust.

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  2. I'm a tad concerned, but not worried, if that makes sense. I think we'll miss out on some big plays and our offense might be erratic at times due to the O-Line, but I think the overall numbers will still reflect a strong offense.

    I think it's an average line. People are quick to point to what Freddie did last year, yet also completely ignore the travesty that was Haley's play-calling. Was the offensive line that gave up 20 sacks in 5.5 Baker-led games under Haley REEEEALLY that bad/horrific? Or was it as elite as the Freddie-era that only gave up 5 sacks in 8 games? I think it's somewhere in the middle.

    Consider that under Hue/Haley, Baker's TTT was 2.79 seconds (which is above league average). Under Freddie, his TTT was 2.78 seconds. It's completely identical. The O-line was blocking above league average even under Hue/Haley, so it only means that Haley's offense that required 23409832423 seconds for long-developing routes with no extra blocking was the cause of Baker's 20 sacks. And the same amount of time to throw was given to Freddie, who transformed that 2.78 seconds into a potent offense and only 5 sacks in 8 games.

    I know we lost Zeitler and also these are just numbers with regard to pass-blocking, but as easily as we can pump the brakes on how good it is under Freddie's play-calling, we can pump the brakes on how bad we think it might be just because it did horribly under Haley.

    I think with Freddie's play-calling, James Campen's coaching, the added offensive weapons like OBJ and Hunt when he returns, a smarter Baker that reads defenses better, we'll be fine boyos. We'll obviously address it as best as we can and I'm expecting us to take offensive linemen high in the 2020 draft.

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  3. Don't scare me like that, homie. I saw the thread title and was afraid we suffered a massive injury in practice or something.

    But to get on topic - apparently Prospect X has been playing VERY well over the past few weeks. He's actually the Browns 2nd highest graded offensive linemen in the preasons (behind Bitonio) according to PFF. Now we know the other starters have been playing against starters... but that's still very promising for our rookie. Where Corbett lacks in strength, Forbes more than makes up for. I give Campen some credit for his progression.

    Edit: I'm not opposed to a trade, but I imagine we'll probably cut dudes like Kalis and sign someone that gets cut from another roster to keep promoting competition.

  4. On 8/20/2019 at 5:17 PM, offbyone said:

    What a jackass.  In one year, Mayfield has already trashed his first head coach, ran his mouth about one of his teammate's contract situations and ran his mouth about a qb colleague.  

    This all works out ok for him if he is prolifically winning.  But if he starts playing bad, his team is going to turn on him real fast. 

    For the billionth time, it wasn't a contract situation. Duke had just signed a 3 yr extension the year before.

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  5. On 8/15/2019 at 9:36 PM, Bolts223 said:

    For me personally it has nothing to do with the Browns history and everything to do with so many question marks.

    Like could the Browns be great this year and be a real contender in the AFC? Sure. It's possible. I kinda view the Browns the same way I viewed the Eagles going into 2017.

    That doesn't change the fact that it's not likely to happen. I think they have a decent amount of talent on that roster, I do like Baker, but I think 9-7 is probably a safe bet. I think people are really still sleeping on the Steelers and that they are probably still the better team for now. 

    I have them at 10-6. Not far off.

    I guess I don't get the question marks. Kitchens is new, but could he be worse than Hue? Is OBJ truly a locker room cancer? The O-line lost one guy at RG - is it possible the replacement could be average? What other question marks are there?

    I mean, if those are the ONLY question marks then I'm happy with that. If this were any other team in the league I feel like people would be predicting 12 or 13 wins. I just think people are afraid of buying into the hype and feel safer being on-the-fence contrarians. That way they can play both sides depending on the outcome.

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  6. If your only argument against the Browns is: "LoOk At ThEiR hIsToRy" or "ThEiR hC iS nEw" or "EgOs" then I'll happily take that. Every single team has question marks and if ours isn't really our players then good. I'm sure it's hard to believe the Browns could ever be good. But when it happens... don't act like you predicted it happening just because you were on the pessimistic fence the entire offseason.

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  7. 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

    Yeah and didn’t they lose 3-4 front 7 starters?

    I know they tend to reload rather than rebuild, but that’s a lot for any team to lose.

    Yep. Replaced Weddle with Thomas so they did upgrade there (assuming Thomas returns to form after the big injury). Their secondary might be the best in the league - Jefferson + Thomas and Humphrey (suuuuper good) + Smith as corners (and Brandon Carr is good too).

    But they lost a lot elsewhere. Suggs and Smith were their two sack leaders last year. Mosley was the brain of their defense. Michael Pierce showed up to minicamp 800 pounds overweight and got sent home. Even right now he's a little overweight. They're counting on Matt Judon heavily.

    This will be a Ravens defense that, while having arguably the best secondary in the league, have some questions regarding generating pressure. Should be solid against the run but I think if you give a QB like Mayfield time he will thread needles. With an upgraded WR group vs. aging secondary, I think the Browns guys will be able to get open and Mayfield will have time. Lamar barely played from behind last year and I think this year we'll see how he performs in those situations a lot more.

    Still should be some tough games though and you can never discount what Harbaugh can do for that team.

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  8. 1 hour ago, pnies20 said:

    Man I’m really worried about the Ravens D and run game. I feel like they’re going to run all over us.

    Steelers are on the downswing. Conner and juju smith-schussed are their only weapons and their D isn’t what it used To be.

    They are 2 well coached teams and it’s going to be a dogfight every time.

    I get the feeling we will be shredding defenses. I think the Ravens D is gonna be good, but not incredible. I could see us dropping 30 on them and Lamar only managing 17-21 on us.

  9. On 8/10/2019 at 11:05 AM, Gmen said:

    @thebestever6 We know pretty quickly whether a quarterback can play in this league. Mahomes, Wentz, Mayfield, Goff, Wilson and Prescott, were playing well and their teams were competing by year two, sometimes even year one. If Daniel Jones is the real deal, the Giants will be back in the hunt in 2020. They have Saquon and Engram as the offensive threats, the defense has 7 starters 25 or younger, and the Giants are slated to have $90 million in cap space next offseason. A lot depends on Jones, but so far the arrow is pointing up.

    I can tell you one thing: the more time you spend watching Eli play, the less likely you'll know what you have in Jones. You don't want to waste 2-3 years finding out that he's only an average QB at best.

  10. 10 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

    Teams desperate to win do desperate things. 


    Even if it is a 3rd ot will be a late one. 



    I'm not completely sure about that. Texans could win as low as 7 games IMO. They have a brutal schedule this year and haven't really addressed their O-Line woes. They went on an improbable run to close the season that could've easily been worse.

    Not trashing them because they're a fairly good team, but their win range is pretty big. Could be double digit wins or much worse. 7-9 teams finished with mid-round picks this past draft.

  11. On 7/29/2019 at 10:03 AM, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

    Even still, 5 touches, 100 yards.  Good for sure, nothing wild or crazy.

    10+ receptions, some in double coverage.  Beating a #1 corner and making catches even when you know the defense knows you’re getting the ball.  

    125-150 yards on occasion.

    Not needing to be lined up in the slot to whip a DB’s butt.

    Jarvis is certainly overpaid but I'd rather have him at this price than not at all.

    He played an instrumental role in transforming our losing culture. The day he got here he was recruiting people and all about that Brown and Orange. It really was contagious. Obviously a lot of other factors were involved (Baker, firing Hue/Haley, etc...) but it still stands that Jarvis has helped lift this team out of the dirt.

    I love his energy on the field too. He keeps us fired up. He's also a top 10 WR blocker as well, which matters more than people acknowledge.

  12. On 7/29/2019 at 2:14 PM, theJ said:

    This is the crux of why i don't understand half of the comments in this thread saying the Bengals need to trade him.  No one would argue that Julio Jones should be traded, yet because the Bengals are predicted to be bad, they're seen as morons for holding onto a valuable asset.  

    They think they can contend, so they're going to hold onto him.  They also know they can franchise him for 2020 (or get a 2021 comp pick), so they're not going to trade him for peanuts at the trade deadline.

    The Falcons are only a few years removed from being up 28-3 going into the 4th quarter at the Super Bowl. They have a franchise QB who is superior to Dalton. The mindset is that if they can reach the playoffs, anything can happen. So you don't trade Julio, who is not only a year younger than Green, but has only missed 3 regular season games in the past 5 years. Green has missed 16 games. Julio is also a better WR.

    Then you look at the Bengals team situation - injury after injury after injury. They don't have a realistic shot at winning the Super Bowl, and they may or may not move on from Dalton sooner than later. If they do get a high draft pick, will they pass on on Trevor Lawrence or Tua Tagovailoa? Maybe not. Not to mention Mixon is extremely talented and probably underrated who is only 23'ish - Bengals are possibly on the cusp of rebuilding. AJ Green doesn't fit this timeline.

    Anyway, I don't think the Bengals are morons but I can see why people think they should've pulled the trigger on the rebuild already.

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  13. I'd flip Duke for a 4th. Here are 10 reasons why:

    1. He wants out - doesn't matter too much if he causes chemistry issues or not. The man doesn't want to be here and expressed it to the public. Simple as that.

    2. He can ~potentially~ become a distraction. I don't expect him to be, but it could happen, especially if we lose some early games.

    3. The market for RBs is terrible right now. Unfortunately, Jordan Howard set it after being traded to the Eagles and now anything better than a 6th will require a RB as talented as Howard. A 4th would be great value for Duke.

    4. Piggybacking off the above - 4ths can be quite valuable if the scouting department is solid. We got Callaway with our 4th last year and Redwine (an unknown right now). We also traded a 3rd (practically 4th) that we got from New England as part of the package to get OBJ. 4ths can generally be upgraded to 3rds in the following year if traded. Basically, let's not act like a 4th can't have good value.

    5. Hunt returns after 8 games, which will introduce some redundancies in terms of playstyle.

    6. Dontrell Hilliard (I'm super high on him) has played well in his appearances, interception notwithstanding.

    7. Duke's a 2nd (3rd string when Hunt returns) on a air-raid style offense that will likely sling it through the air this year. Even if you think he's Barry Sanders incarnate, his role here is not going to be hefty. Chubb appears to have the makings of a bell-cow RB anyway.

    8. RBs will be cut throughout camp and preseason. There are a couple of names out there right now that may be able to mitigate the loss of Duke (which wouldn't be enormous anyway).

    9. RBs are among the easiest positions to replace, both from free agency and in the draft. While Hunt may be here for another season or two, we can easily draft some decent prospects in the later rounds to offset any loss.

    10. Because Baker The King In the North Mayfield said you're on this train or not.

  14. As of right now I don't think we really have any "needs" at all.

    What we have are a bunch of question marks (OL, LB, S, K). Will G-Rob and Corbett pan out? Will Capt Kirk bounce back? What do we have with The Mack and 2Tak? How is Redwine gonna turn out and is Whitehead just an offseason wonder? What about our special teams and kicker situation?

    These type of question marks will never, EVER go away even if we win multiple super bowls. No team ever has a complete roster top to bottom without question marks or concerns. 

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  15. 19 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

    Eh, most of the other fans are cool here.  There’s a handful of Ravens and Pats fans I find obnoxious, but most pretty cool.

    The Bengals fans here are chill as hell. 

    Ahh - see, I frequent reddit and they spare no mercy with their heckling. It's like a war zone there.

  16. Btw, I get why you guys are generally amicable and peaceful with other fanbases. We haven't done anything yet. We only went 7-8-1, haven't made the playoffs, have a history of ineptitude, blah blah blah.

    But if/when we take over this league I want all of you to be as obnoxious as possible. We deserve it. Don't let the other fans off the hook for 20 years of trashing us.

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