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  1. Who are the greatest never was' of the NFL?

    Aaron Hernandez is an interesting case. Not sure if he would have been an all time great or anything, but the combo of him and Gronk would have been absolutely nasty for years to come. Good chance that the Pats win more than just the 3 this decade if what happened didn't happen with him.
  2. NFC next year, early predictions

    1) Eagles 12-4-0 2) Seahawks 11-5-0 3) Vikings 11-5-0 4) Saints 10-6-0 5) Rams 10-6-0 6) Bears 10-6-0
  3. AFC Early Predictions

    The Chargers are just a much better roster than the Broncos and it's really not close. They were still ranked 6th in the NFL by SRS (A metric that takes into account point differential and strength of schedule) They may not go 12-4 again, but I think 10-6 is a reasonable expectation. The Chiefs are as well. While I don't expect the offense to be nearly as electric next year, I don't expect the defense to be nearly as terrible. I expect both to regress to the mean. The Chiefs have been a pretty consistent team under Andy Reid, not sure why that would change next year.
  4. AFC Early Predictions

    Even with Ben, I don't think they beat out the Chiefs or the Chargers.
  5. AFC Early Predictions

    Pats, Steelers, Colts, Ravens, Chargers, Chiefs
  6. What well by post Brady/Belichick era look like?

    If Brady retires and Belichick is still the coach, I think they will be fine. I don't think they will be a lock to be in the AFC Championship anymore, but It's not like any of the other AFC East organizations are competent enough to consistently challenge them as they are just so much better ran.
  7. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    I think the 49ers stretch is probably the next best, but it's still decently behind the Pats. 5 SB's, 5 appearances, 8 Conference Championship game appearances vs 6 SB's, 9 appearances and 13 Conference championship game appearances.
  8. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    You realize that Belichick has found many hidden gems at other positions other than receiver right? I'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here, that Brady is the only reason for the Pats success? The difference between Brady and other elite QB's is not very big, the difference between Belichick and the next best coach in the league is substantial.
  9. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    I'm not really sure what you are talking about at all tbh. Brady is a huge factor to the Pats success, and I said that in my original post. Brady is one of many factors as to why the Pats have been this good for so long.
  10. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    Sorry I didn't mean top dollar, I just meant the Pats typically aren't bringing in top FA's that would command top dollar for cheaper. It's happened, but it's not the recipe for their success. That's what the Broncos were doing earlier in the decade, It's a large reason of how that defense was so good in 2015. What the Patriots do that is very different from most other franchises is that they will take players like Welker, Edelman, Butler, etc and perfectly utilize their skillset. They will often find former Pro-Bowlers who are believed to be washed up and make them Pro-Bowlers again (Moss, Rodney Harrisson, Correy Dillon) They will sometimes just add a pro-bowler to their roster via trade/FA (Cooks, Revis) but it's not something that they do more often than any other franchise does. It really just comes down to Belichick being such a great football mind and being able to perfectly utilize the skillsets of all 53 players on his roster. The Patriots have almost never been the most talented team, they don't win by being the most talented.
  11. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    The Patriots really aren't a team that is gobbling up top free agents for top dollar. Besides 2007, has there ever really been a Pats team that was viewed as the most talented in the NFL? That's more of the model that the Broncos were using earlier in the decade, and it did work in that it got them a ring and sustained success for 5 seasons. But it's not what causes a 20 year run like this.
  12. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    This is so wrong for so many reasons. I'm not even sure where to start, but I'll give it a go. - The AFC was the superior conference BY FAR when the Patriots won their first 3 Super Bowl's - If the Patriots were in the NFC, they would presumably be in the NFC East. They still win this division in almost every season from 2003 - present. - The Patriots are 6-3 against the NFC in the Super Bowl, and 57-15 against the NFC (regular season) since 2001. People have this illusion that the NFC has been the better conference because it's been more competitive and there has been more parity within the conference, but it's simply not true. The AFC has been the much better conference the last 20 years.
  13. Why will we never see another Patriots dynasty again? Salary cap?

    I think that what the Pats have been able to accomplish has required such a perfect storm that it will most likely never happen again in the salary-cap era. To accomplish what the Pats have accomplished it has required the following factors: - A head coach that is just so far and away better than any of his contemporaries - An elite QB who sustains almost two decades of quality play and is willing to play for less than he could probably get due to having a wife who makes more than any NFL player could. - An owner who is both passionate about winning and whose ego doesn't get in the way of accomplishing so - A division that consists of 3 poorly ran teams (I personally think people overrate this factor a little too much, but it is a factor.) - Having a massive HFA come playoff time, something that is increasingly rare these days with a lot of teams going to indoor dome stadiums. We may see a team win 3 SB's in a 4/5 year span again, but it would be from having a stacked roster with an MVP caliber QB on a rookie contract behind it, and that team would quickly dissolve after the fact due to cap restrictions. We will never see a team average 12-4 over an 18 year span while winning 6 SB's, going to 9 as well as 13 AFC/NFC Championship games ever again. What the Patriots have done is just too incredibly rare and difficult to expect to happen again in this era of football.
  14. ESPN 2019 Power Rankings

    Not really sure why this would matter either. That's not at all objective in determining who a better team is, the Chiefs finished with both a better record and higher seed than the Pats did this year. The Pats went 2-0 against them this year and went onto win the SB, are we going to say the Chiefs were a better team than the Pats this year? The Chiefs and Chargers had the same exact record, they won the exact same number of playoff games, and they both lost to the same team in the playoffs. I get that it's a different argument, I'm just saying Chiefs fans on here and in general seem to think that they are going to walk to the division crown next year, and there is no basis in reality of why they should think that.