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ToonPatriot

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  1. It's nowhere near as big an upgrade as you're making out
  2. I mean, he also threw 2 INTs which is actually a bit of a concern for him that seems to fly under the radar. People like to mention his 22-8 record but in that time he has 26 interceptions(!!) and five lost fumbles. That's not to mention the general eye test on his wobbly passes. I just think we should be aiming higher. Yes the draft is a crapshoot but Lance/Fields at least have upside, potential. Right now Jimmy G is a known quantity - mid-lower tier game manager (when healthy). SF decided "enough of this, lets go find our QBoTF" and I think that should be our mindset too.
  3. I agree, but I don't think you can trust anything right now. BB most likely wants him back, just trying to angle the best deal possible. Whilst I hate the idea of him returning, if its a 3rd rd pick or below I don't hate the value.
  4. Man am I disappointed. The Jimmy G option was one I wanted the least. I just don’t see what BB sees here, whether blind love or arrogance and wanting to prove a point but as others have said here already he isn’t a great long term franchise QB. I’ve seen some shocking takes on Twitter and PatsFans with people seriously suggesting we trade our 1st to “bring him home”, I guess I just don’t get it. SF get their shiny new toy (an overpay for the 3rd best option sure but still), and we get their broken castoff. Anything above a 3rd rounder to bring him back (on a seriously negotiated lower con
  5. This is my fear, has been all offseason. I don't see what BB has seen in Jimmy's 3 years in SF to think he's the guy for us. Is it blind love for a guy you drafted and nurtured? Or just plain arrogance in ignoring the statistics? Even if we ignore his injury record (which should be the biggest of big red flags for any team looking at him), has his QB play been that good when healthy? People will point to the SB run but he was hardly a key component of what made that team special. He only completed 17 passes in the playoffs for crying out loud. When they needed him most in the SB he fell
  6. You'd take Trask? All of the criticisms that are thrown at Jones are 10x more relevant with Trask, the guy is a statue that throws paper planes to his receivers. I'd take Mills day 2 and Mond over Newman (though i'm not sure I could spend the next 20 years watching that tucked up throwing motion lol).
  7. I agree with the majority of your post but I'm not sure why you're so convinced the Eagles are going QB? If anything, the Flacco signing makes it seem like they are going all in on Hurts with a reliable if not spectacular backup just in case. I'd be utterly amazed if they voluntarily got themselves into another messy QB debate next year, especially when Hurts showed promise and they have so many other roster holes to fill. For me we have potential trade partners from 4th-7th, but as you say if Watson isn't available we can expect the Panthers to be aggressive in the draft with Denver and
  8. Good post, but this bit is key for me. We hear how they "like" a top QB pretty much each year (didn't they even interview Baker?), but we've near enough been picking in the 30s for most of the last decade and had TB12. It makes SO much sense that we'd do something at QB in this draft given how unusually high up in the draft we are and no longer have QB stability. Not gonna lie, it also makes me a little worried that it makes too much sense and in typical BB fashion we're gonna be left shocked for the wrong reasons lol, but you have to imagine that there's been serious homework done on all the
  9. Honestly, between the 3 QBs that we "might" have a shot with (Fields, Lance, Jones) i'd happily take any of them. They all have strengths and weaknesses but with our gold standard coaching and rookie-friendly offense we've managed to assemble in FA I think we'd give any of those guys the best chance of flourishing.
  10. This is where i'm at with this move. Happy to get him back to shore up the QB room ahead of trying to persuade FAs to join us, but only really satisfied if we add Jones/Lance to the equation too.
  11. I don't know how anyone can look at this list and still turn their nose up at Jones at #15.
  12. I'm looking at all these big off season trades as how they effect the draft rather than our ability to get Jimmy G back as i'd prefer to the former. So far I think this blockbuster doesn't really impact much, Lions might not be in for a QB but Panthers still are, with 9ers and now Colts also trade up candidates.
  13. Belichick the coach? No way. It's a shame that he's also the GM though cause it can be hard to separate the too. Some of the excuses (and lets not beat around the bush, that's what they were) about selling out etc were not a good look this year. I still find it stunning that we had no real succession plan in place at QB past trading Jimmy G in 2017. You hear rumours of New England coaches past and present being a bit arrogant about the system/Brady and you wonder just how true it is, believing we could win with anyone. If true, hopefully this season was a bit of an eye opener. But these a
  14. Steelers: Ben RoethlisbergerRavens: Lamar JacksonBrowns: Baker MayfieldBengals: Joe BurrowBills: Josh AllenDolphins: Tua Tagovailoa Patriots: Mac Jones, Ryan Fitzpatrick Jets: Deshaun WatsonTitans: Ryan Tannehill Colts: Matthew Stafford Texans: Justin FieldsJaguars: Trevor LawrenceChiefs: Patrick MahomesRaiders: Derek CarrChargers: Justin Herbert Broncos: Drew Lock Packers: Aaron Rodgers Bears: Jacoby Brissett, Nick FolesVikings: Kirk Cousins Lions: Zach Wilson WFT: Alex Smith, Mitchell Trubisky Cowboys: Dak PrescottGiants: Daniel JonesEagles: Carson Wentz Saints: Jameis Winsto
  15. Step away from the keyboard and go do your homework.
  16. I get this logic of doing things, but I just think it's easier to trade up from #15 then it is 20s-30s. I'd be okay with Brissett or Fitz as a stopgap under the condition that we draft a QB high within the next two drafts.
  17. Hard pass from me. Can't see BB paying Stafford what he wouldn't pay Brady, nor would I want us to give away our highest draft pick in years, and that's if our first would be enough which I probably doubt. We have way too many holes, give me Brissett or Fitzmagic as a bridge with a QB in the draft within the next two years.
  18. Ah jeez, sucks to be us eh? - the worst impression ever but i've seen Fargo. Guess it means we're bringing Jimmy the patient back - which if i'm honest is what I see us doing regardless of who's available at 15.
  19. If he did go then it would surely mean he'd be the 4th QB off the board, which might mean Lance could be free? But damn, now the Colts are officially in the mix too, a lot of QB needy teams. I know they won't all look to the draft but Jones was supposed to be the guy who might be available at 15, now it doesn't look like any of the so called top 5 will be.
  20. So if he plays well and impresses, he's going at #8
  21. Bucs/Bills for all the reasons already mentioned - but with the added bonus that i'm good with either outcome. As a Pats fan I'd want Brady to get his 7th, but I like the Bills & Allen and their fans are incredible/deserving. Already bored of the Chiefs being so good (can understand the hate we got all those years), plus I don't want them to be the first repeat since us back in 2004. Realistically though, I probably think it'll be Packers/Chiefs.
  22. I agree. Unfortunately I don't think Bill will.
  23. Out of interest, to everyone on here right now - Mac Jones or Jimmy G? Rookie contract vs whatever we'd pay Jimmy ($20m?) Unknown vs history of injuries It's surely an interesting debate from QB play to overall team building etc
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