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  1. Fletch or Kelce. Lose either of them, the O/D isn’t nearly the same.
  2. Philly comes to Denver once every 8 years. I went last time only to see them get obliterated by Peyton. Game was over by halftime. Do I even wanna go again? At any rate, I think we'll be 6-7 at the bye. I love the fact that we have a bye right before 4 presumably critical division games.
  3. Wentz 2/10 - He's proven to be mentally weak. He gets a 2 because he's back with Frank Reich and has a good supporting cast. Goff 2/10 - Was already struggling and is now in Detroit with lesser everything Stafford 8/10 - I think he'll flourish and I wouldn't be surprised to see LA back in the ship
  4. We’re never going to agree because our definitions of athletes are different. Your definition is “person that plays sport.” Which is perfectly fine. That’s the dictionary’s definition of it. I get it. And I’m not here to argue who the greatest athlete of all time is because lord knows with that definition, there’s an infinite number of candidates. But if I’m going to start a list, I’m going to take into account many different things, and one of the big things is going to be can he move faster than my 50 yo uncle. So, when I see a comparison of two guys that have had comparable success in their
  5. I’ve never heard of that person but they’re likely one of the hundreds of people that should be considered over Tom Brady in this discussion. Call Brady the best QB and/or football player of all time. Not the greatest athlete. If there’s some old guy at my rec center who’s played pickle ball for 20 years and has never lost a game, the discussions aren’t going to be, “Man, he’s the greatest athlete I’ve ever seen here”, right? There are sports that inherently require more athleticism. So IMO, golfer, bowler, competitive eater, etc shouldn’t be considered “great athletes.” If we’re saying B
  6. I never said most athletic = greatest athlete. I’m just saying having athletic ability should factor into greatest athlete. Jack Nicklaus can be considered easily the best golfer of all time but why isn’t he part of this discussion? I wrote this a few pages back....: And a sport is "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." So, Joey Chestnut can technically be part of this conversation. Everyone's opinion is going to be different on this one. But when thinking of GOAT athletes, I'd personally pre
  7. And a sport is "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." So, Joey Chestnut can technically be part of this conversation. Everyone's opinion is going to be different on this one. But when thinking of GOAT athletes, I'd personally prefer to leave out old slow fat people like golfers, regardless of whether or not they're great at their respective sport. I'm going to consider Phil Mickelson a great golfer, not a great athlete. Brady's football IQ and focus are unprecedented, which is in part why he'
  8. I'm with ya, bro. If this is a discussion that includes Tom Brady, then Tiger Woods absolutely needs to be part of it. He's absolutely the GQBOAT, but I'm hard-pressed to call him a great "athlete"
  9. Thanks man. I couldn't really tell by the highlights if it was due to busted coverage or if it was elite route running getting the kid wide open. We don't exactly have a good track record drafting WR's so I'm naturally pessimistic.
  10. Okay guys, I admittedly don't watch a whole lot of college football. I understand the dude racked up crazy stats and won the Heisman. So, I'm going strictly off youtube highlights here. It appears to me that 80% of the balls he caught were absurdly wide open and/or screens with great blocking. What plays are jumping out that make you say "OMG this kid is different"? Because I'm not seeing it.
  11. I was skeptical of Wentz going into last year. The moment I lost all hope was against Dallas. He rolls to the left where there are no receivers then proceeds to stand there like the controller got disconnected until he gets sacked. And it wasn't even like he got sacked from the blindside. The defender was right in his line of sight barreling down for like 3 whole seconds. It was his 5th year in the league. Ain't no fixin' that.
  12. There's no doubt in my mind he was 1000% concussed after that pla, but managed to play it off enough to stay in the game. He was a warrior. As for the HOF talk, I think the best comparison is Hines Ward. A tough-as-nails guy who was never really close to being a top 5 WR, but has has multiple rings and a SB MVP. I think Hines has an outside shot at making to the Hall, which means Edelman likely has no shot.
  13. Eli's a lock for the HOF and Rivers doesn't deserve any consideration at all.
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