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  1. Game 8: Lions @ Packers

    ... I would've traded a 4th for Ajayi.
  2. Game 8: Lions @ Packers

    I don't agree with that fumble call. The run was over and the play should have been dead.
  3. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    What? You're referencing something, booth-initiated reviews, that are done on a weekly basis. Of course I expect more than one example. "Hey, this one time, that took 11 seconds, so I'm going to assume that it always takes 11 seconds, despite how inaccurate it is". Guess what? During a 2016 game against the Vikings, the Lions moved 27 yards between plays in only 7 seconds without the use of a timeout. There's my proof that 8 seconds was enough time for them to snap the ball again. This rule was first added for the 2010 season. This is the first time that it allowed an incorrect call on the field to end a game. That's not a huge span of time. Now, if this ever happened in the playoffs (or against the Patriots or Packers), the backlash would be intense.
  4. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    One play? One example is all you have here? Have anything that shows, on average, how long it takes for the refs to stop a play and initiate a review? If so, I'd love to see it. Because, if ruled short on the field, and no official review was initiated, the Lions would already be setting back up to run another play. The glaring mistake in all of this is that they weren't afforded that chance due to an incorrect call on the field.
  5. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    I've posted the rule numerous times. Here it is again: That's what we've been arguing. If you have another rule that applies here, posting it days ago would be pretty helpful. As that rule reads, the runoff only happens if the call on the field is reversed.
  6. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    The 10 second runoff does not happen if the correct call is made on the field. This is a fact.
  7. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    And I'm not mad about the outcome. We shouldn't have been that close. We got outplayed for the majority of the game, and only got close because Ryan was forced into a few mistakes. It's not the outcome. It's the fact that an incorrect call on the field ended a football game. That should be a huge concern for the league.
  8. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    I don't disagree with managing the runoff. Coaches need to do that. If the call was made correctly on the field, and the game ended as a result, I wouldn't have an issue with any of it. Manage the runoff, it's a known rule. This isn't just about the runoff. It's that an incorrect call by the ref caused the runoff to occur. A mistake by the officials shouldn't punish the offense and end a game.
  9. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    It's not that the rule exists. It's that the incorrect call on the field ended the game, while a correct call wouldn't have. That has to be an issue for the NFL and fans of the NFL alike.
  10. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    That's what I thought as well. The rule states that only a reversed decision causes a runoff. It's why the incorrect call on the field is even more significant: had they called it correctly, there would have been no runoff.
  11. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    Had officials stopped the play within a few seconds to either measure or review the play (which they undoubtedly would have), the clock would have only restarted once the ball was placed and determined ready for play. The offense would already be set and ready to snap the ball. There would have been plenty of time to get another snap off.
  12. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    Then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I can't think of a worse ending to a football game - regardless of the teams involved - than an incorrect call removing time from the clock and ending the game immediately. As far as sports go, that has to be the single worst outcome.
  13. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    Then we agree, the time isn't right. Someone mentioned 5 seconds in the red zone and 10 outside of it. So be it. Whatever has to happen to ensure that an incorrect call doesn't end a game.
  14. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    Come on man, this is ridiculous. You don't really believe this, do you? By definition, the incorrect call DID literally end the game. Watch. Scenario 1 - Tate catches the ball and comes up short. Incorrect call is made. Booth review overturns the decision. Game ends. Scenario 2 - Tate catches the ball and comes up short. Correct call is made. Booth review confirms the call. There are 8 seconds left in the game. Notice the constant in the above? Tate's catch didn't change. He was short in Scenario 2 just as he was in Scenario 1, yet the game didn't end. The incorrect call literally ended the game. Tate's catch did not.
  15. Lets Talk the end of Lions/Falcons

    It's not just that the official made an incorrect call. It happens. It's that the officials incorrect call literally ended the game. That's the conversation... that's what's wrong here. And I agree: that call is almost impossible to make accurately on a regular basis. Knowing that, a team shouldn't be punished because the wrong call was made. It simply doesn't make sense.
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