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  1. Random Raider Stuff

    Interesting......... I don't think we're far away from where each position would rank skills wise there either. The outlier might be CB where I think we should be pretty strong with Conley, Worley and Mullen. That looks a strong, decently deep group to me even though Joyner is not included money wise but will be playing a lot of slot. QB - Decent to good value (though I suspect a lot won't agree) RB - To be seen but seems about right given our depth and good spread of skills WR - A little high maybe as AB is the only top guy TE - About right for the bodies we have, hopefully one will step up an make this good value OL - Must perform better than last year but on paper looks about right maybe a little high DL - You get what you pay for LB - We just don't seem to value these and I can understand it somewhat, really like Morrow this year to make a leap S - Good deep group and we should see good play from these guys this year (assume Joyner is included here) CB - Great value for Conley, Worley and Mullen - I think Conley is a star K/P - Overpaid no matter what they earn considering Townsend
  2. Random Raider Stuff

    I don't know if there is a link or something missing on my screen but this quite clearly isn't true or is a huge U turn after the incident. It also raises the question whether we'll retain top level talent after their rookie contract ends, seems a risky way to do business relying on finding a stud every 4 years to replace the guy you won't pay for and hoping he develops in 2, even then you're only getting maybe 2 to 3 years of high level production. I can understand we don't want to have huge money tied up at too many positions but you're also severely handicapping yourself if you're only looking for inexpensive guys.
  3. Random Raider Stuff

    I like a lot of what you post drfrey but this just seems like digging for a reason to put the drops on Carr. Just watching the plays it's clear our receivers did drop a lot of catchable balls, and particularly badly timed ones like on 3rd down, maybe Cooper is just happier in Dallas and as a consequence plays slightly better with more concentration - a more rational explanation to me than Carr throws difficult to catch balls IMHO. If I didn't know better this sounds like making excuses for the receivers in order to apportion blame to Carr..........
  4. Pick is in, #40 - CB Trayvon Mullen

    It is a legitimate concern, that front was very, very strong and could have masked a multitude of failings in the LBs and secondary. I wasn't that familiar with Mullen but having watched a decent amount since his coverage does seem to be good and he's got the physical tools no doubt. Very interesting prospect and we've got the nice situation that he doesn't HAVE to start immediately. I'm liking this pick more and more the better I get acquainted with his play
  5. Random Raider Stuff

    An ominous sign if you ask me.................... I think he's the fulcrum of our OL and should retire a Raider but I can see him being let walk when he wants #1 OC money. I'm probably in the minority but I am a part of the camp that feels we should build up the DL and spend money there and roll with the young guys at LB......albeit guys that can cover and have range. Depending upon how they look in camp and pre-season I'd be willing to give Cabinda and Morrow starter time with one of Marshall or Burfict as the green dot guy. Whitehead (IMO) wasn't terrible but wasn't worth his money and I don't see him improving markedly, and he's too expensive for a backup/ST guy. I really think Morrow can be a very good coverage LB and Lee is cheap depth. Coney I'm not buying the hype until we see it in game time, there's a reason he had a draft free fall.
  6. Probably Joey Bosa as the DL is still a very weak link and he's a complete player. From the other rivals: Chiefs - Travis Kelce as we have just bodies at TE Broncos - Chris Harris Jr (for 1 yr) or Bradley Chubb (if long term)
  7. The Official Derek Carr Thread

    Good reply. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I rate QBs (or any players or boxers etc. etc.) I tend to put them in the context of their time frame and compared against their peers. Montana's numbers would look pedestrian to pretty good today but obviously at that time was elite - which you would only really know by watching the actual games. This is the only way I feel we can compare different generations.
  8. The Official Derek Carr Thread

    I think the confusion here is how posters designate their catagories - is 'average' a comparison to the 2019 projected starters (in which case you'd be correct) or is it in terms of calibre of QB that the poster has seen over a period of time which may include historical QBs. For example, when I rate a QB I take into account the QBs we've had over the last 30 odd years and the great QBs I've seen such as Montana, Marino and Moon. For me, average would be a QB who is a starter but who is not going to carry the team but may have great games at times aswell as poor games and seasons, Dalton would be the epitome of average to me. It wouldn't be the mean skill of the current starting QBs as they could all be great or lots of them poor at any one time. The tiers currently for me would be; Elite QBs - Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Wilson Near Elite - Rivers, Luck, Mahomes, Roethlisberger Good Starter - Ryan, Mayfield, Wentz, Carr, Watson, Newton, Stafford, Goff, Garoppolo Average - Dalton, Cousins, Prescott, Smith, Foles, Mariota, Manning, Fitzpatrick, Bradford, Flacco, Winston, Below Average - Keenum, Trubisky, Tannehill, Jackson, Bortles, Gabbert, Need to see more - Garoppolo, Darnold, Allen, All Rookie QBs
  9. Random Raider Stuff

    It sounds promising, but we’ve had so many false dawns on players I’m still in wait and see mode until he proves something on the field. It does at least sound like a legitimate reason why they let Cook walk.
  10. The Official Derek Carr Thread

    I agree with the last sentiment entirely! Only thing I'd say is that every Carr supporter here that I've seen contribute has readily admitted Carr has flaws and I've not seen anyone deny any obvious flaws in his game.
  11. 2019 Free Agency V2

    I think a guy like Allen Bailey could be worth bringing in as a big bodied run stopper at strong side DE with a little pass rush, always liked his play at the Chiefs and Ethan Westbrooks looked promising a few years back not sure what happened to him. Wilkerson looked done and checked out to me and I'm surprised we haven't brought Kony Ealy in if even for camp. I don't think many of these would actually make our team and I guess the coaches feel the same at this point.
  12. 2019 Free Agency V2

    I guess we can put that spin on it but compared to Lee Smith and Cook last year who were both very valuable role players this years TE roster looks scarily weak to me. Iron sharpens iron is the old saying but I can't honestly see a starting calibre TE on the roster at this point to 'sharpen' the other options against. Maybe I'm in the minority but I guess I'd rather have a proven commodity than just hopes and dreams on players who've never amounted to much.
  13. Offseason workouts underway (OTA's page 6)

    True, but it's a beautifully thrown ball and beating Lamarcus Joyner I think who's one of our best in coverage. I for one am excited to see how the Carr/Brown connection evolves and who they go up against in camp will be intriguing.........
  14. Random Raider Stuff

    No way Hudson wasn't near the very top performers at OC and Conley did very well too, this actually for me throws a lot of doubt about how these PFF guys come up with their ratings. Hudson was absolutely Pro Bowl worthy and in a better team probably in the All Pro discussion. I'm not entirely sure how high 80.0 is as a ranking in their system but I didn't see a better centre in 2018.
  15. Random Raider Stuff

    Something to do, play along if you wish... Most Overrated: None really, but I guess any of our TEs if we consider them starter calibreMost Underrated: Karl JosephBest Player: Rodney HudsonKey New Addition: Antonio BrownCould Surprise: Kolton MillerTakes a Leap: PJ Hall Prove it Year: Jon Gruden