ET80 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 18 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: They did lose Bouye who has shown to be a very, very good corner. Also Mercilus. I acknowledged both of those losses. 18 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: Another 25% of Jonathan Joseph’s legs. It isn't just Joseph and his legs - there was significant regression from both Kareem Jackson and Kevin Johnson. Both of those guys are relatively young, but they backslid drastically. (Johnson went from up and coming in 2016 to the worst CB in football...) After a while, you can't assume everyone is just failing at the same time, you have to put some pressure on the guy calling the shots. Watching games, you saw the secondary just looking around and confused (most notably in the last second losses in Seattle and New England). The entire unit left gaping holes all over the place, and it showed. 18 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: Replaced Cushing with Cunningham Addition by subtraction - Cushing was burned out two seasons ago, Cunningham was a better option from the get go. The Texans also benefitted from better play at NT, where DJ Reader was a considerably better option than Vince Wilfork (who was on his last legs three seasons ago in NE) and an improved Jadevion Clowney who played the entire season for the first time in his career. I'll concede that there was a net loss overall (Quentin Demps was a particularly big loss) but mitigated at absolute best - not a "25 spot decrease" type loss. 18 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: Offense threw one more interception and had a very slightly worse 3rd down conversion rate compared to 2016. About the same number of rushing yards totals, but worse on a Y/A basis. Pretty negligible, but a worse offense in a fair number of statistics Tale of two offenses in 2017. For six games in 2017, the Texans were the highest scoring offense in the NFL, with above average ranks in each of those categories you mention. In the 10 games without Deshaun Watson, Tom Savage brought those numbers below the Brock line (yes, it's possible to go below the Brock line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 21 hours ago, Bullet Club said: Colts or Bengals. I'll say Bengals. Just wondering why you think the Bengals will be so bad this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: Just wondering why you think the Bengals will be so bad this year? I don't think they improved, I don't think they'll want to play for Marvin Lewis for another season and I think the Browns got better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: I don't think they improved, I don't think they'll want to play for Marvin Lewis for another season and I think the Browns got better. Any reason you came to that conclusion of the players not wanting to play for Marvin? When reports were out that he was going to be let go at the end of the year, the plays spoke up saying they wanted him back and they won their final 2 games and knocked those two teams out of the playoff hunt. but I guess its certainly possible they end up with the #1 pick. I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, johndeere1707 said: Any reason you came to that conclusion of the players not wanting to play for Marvin? When reports were out that he was going to be let go at the end of the year, the plays spoke up saying they wanted him back and they won their final 2 games and knocked those two teams out of the playoff hunt. but I guess its certainly possible they end up with the #1 pick. I just don't see it. Just my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 22 hours ago, Bullet Club said: I don't think they improved, I don't think they'll want to play for Marvin Lewis for another season and I think the Browns got better. Compared to our roster from last season, we're far better off. We really only "lost" Kevin Minter, Pacman Jones, and Jeremy Hill. While upgrading our weakest positions with Cordy Glenn, Preston Brown and Billy Price. John Ross was essentially red-shirted his first year, so it's like we have two first rounders in the fold. It's also worth noting the additions to our coaching staff, with offensive line coach Frank Pollack (of Dallas' allstar regime), and Teryl Austin at DC. On paper we look really good. I expect us to compete for a wildcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: Compared to our roster from last season, we're far better off. We really only "lost" Kevin Minter, Pacman Jones, and Jeremy Hill. While upgrading our weakest positions with Cordy Glenn, Preston Brown and Billy Price. John Ross was essentially red-shirted his first year, so it's like we have two first rounders in the fold. It's also worth noting the additions to our coaching staff, with offensive line coach Frank Pollack (of Dallas' allstar regime), and Teryl Austin at DC. On paper we look really good. I expect us to compete for a wildcard. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: Compared to our roster from last season, we're far better off. We really only "lost" Kevin Minter, Pacman Jones, and Jeremy Hill. While upgrading our weakest positions with Cordy Glenn, Preston Brown and Billy Price. John Ross was essentially red-shirted his first year, so it's like we have two first rounders in the fold. It's also worth noting the additions to our coaching staff, with offensive line coach Frank Pollack (of Dallas' allstar regime), and Teryl Austin at DC. On paper we look really good. I expect us to compete for a wildcard. CIN should be a lot better. Firming up the trenches helps so much. But drafts take time. > .500 would be a great result given they drew the NFC South. You are headed in the right direction but ppl have to temper year 1 expectations. NO 2017 impact is literally 1x a decade or less event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howru8888 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 AFC East: 1. Patriots 2. Bills 3. Jets 4. Dolphins AFC North: 1. Steelers 2. Browns 3. Ravens 4. Bengals AFC South: 1. Texans 2. Jaguars 3. Titans 4. Colts AFC West: 1. Chargers 2. Raiders 3. Broncos 4. Chiefs NFC East: 1. Redskins 2. Eagles 3. Cowboys 4. Giants NFC North: 1. Packers 2. Vikings 3. Lions 4. Bears NFC South: 1. Saints 2. Falcons 3. Bucs 4. Panthers NFC West: 1. Rams 2. 49ers 3. Seahawks 4. Cardinals Most Valuable Player: Aaron Rodgers Offensive Player of the Year: Leveon Bell Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Donald Offensive Rookie of the Year: Saquon Barkley Defensive Rookie of the Year: Roquon Smith Comeback Player of the Year: JJ Watt Coach of the Year: Anthomy Lynn AFC Championship Game: Steelers over Chargers NFC Championship Game: Saints over Rams Super Bowl: Steelers vs Saints Super Bowl Champs: Saints Super Bowl MVP: Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, howru8888 said: NFC East: 1. Redskins 2. Eagles 3. Cowboys 4. Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shylo3716 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, howru8888 said: AFC East: 1. Patriots 2. Bills 3. Jets 4. Dolphins AFC North: 1. Steelers 2. Browns 3. Ravens 4. Bengals AFC South: 1. Texans 2. Jaguars 3. Titans 4. Colts AFC West: 1. Chargers 2. Raiders 3. Broncos 4. Chiefs NFC East: 1. Redskins 2. Eagles 3. Cowboys 4. Giants NFC North: 1. Packers 2. Vikings 3. Lions 4. Bears NFC South: 1. Saints 2. Falcons 3. Bucs 4. Panthers NFC West: 1. Rams 2. 49ers 3. Seahawks 4. Cardinals Most Valuable Player: Aaron Rodgers Offensive Player of the Year: Leveon Bell Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Donald Offensive Rookie of the Year: Saquon Barkley Defensive Rookie of the Year: Roquon Smith Comeback Player of the Year: JJ Watt Coach of the Year: Anthomy Lynn AFC Championship Game: Steelers over Chargers NFC Championship Game: Saints over Rams Super Bowl: Steelers vs Saints Super Bowl Champs: Saints Super Bowl MVP: Drew Brees Who gets the #1 Overall Pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howru8888 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Shylo3716 said: Who gets the #1 Overall Pick? Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 AFC East: 1. New England Patriots (#2) 2. New York Jets 3. Miami Dolphins 4. Buffalo Bills AFC North: 1. Pittsburgh Steelers (#3) 2. Baltimore Ravens 3. Cleveland Browns 4. Cincinnati Bengals AFC South: 1. Houston Texans (#4) 2. Jacksonville Jaguars (#5) 3. Indianapolis Colts 4. Tennessee Titans AFC West: 1. Los Angeles Chargers (#1) 2. Denver Broncos (#6) 3. Kansas City Chiefs 4. Oakland Raiders NFC East: 1. Philadelphia Eagles (#3) 2. New York Giants 3. Washington Redskins 4. Dallas Cowboys NFC North: 1. Green Bay Packers (#4) 2. Minnesota Vikings (#6) 3. Chicago Bears 4. Detroit Lions NFC South: 1. New Orleans Saints (#2) 2. Atlanta Falcons (#5) 3. Carolina Panthers 4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFC West: 1. Los Angeles Rams (#1) 2. San Francisco 49ers 3. Arizona Cardinals 4. Seattle Seahawks Most Valuable Player: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Offensive Player of the Year: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Defensive Player of the Year: Von Miller, Denver Offensive Rookie of the Year: Sam Darnold, NY Jets Defensive Rookie of the Year: Derwin James, LA Chargers Comeback Player of the Year: Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Coach of the Year: Anthony Lynn, LA Chargers AFC Championship Game: LA Chargers def. Jacksonville Jaguars NFC Championship Game: LA Rams def. New Orleans Saints Super Bowl: LA Rams vs LA Chargers Super Bowl Champs: LA Chargers Super Bowl MVP: Phillip Rivers, LA Chargers #1 Overall Pick: Buffalo Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shylo3716 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: AFC East: 1. New England Patriots (#2) 2. New York Jets 3. Miami Dolphins 4. Buffalo Bills AFC North: 1. Pittsburgh Steelers (#3) 2. Baltimore Ravens 3. Cleveland Browns 4. Cincinnati Bengals AFC South: 1. Houston Texans (#4) 2. Jacksonville Jaguars (#5) 3. Indianapolis Colts 4. Tennessee Titans AFC West: 1. Los Angeles Chargers (#1) 2. Denver Broncos (#6) 3. Kansas City Chiefs 4. Oakland Raiders NFC East: 1. Philadelphia Eagles (#3) 2. New York Giants 3. Washington Redskins 4. Dallas Cowboys NFC North: 1. Green Bay Packers (#4) 2. Minnesota Vikings (#6) 3. Chicago Bears 4. Detroit Lions NFC South: 1. New Orleans Saints (#2) 2. Atlanta Falcons (#5) 3. Carolina Panthers 4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFC West: 1. Los Angeles Rams (#1) 2. San Francisco 49ers 3. Arizona Cardinals 4. Seattle Seahawks Most Valuable Player: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Offensive Player of the Year: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Defensive Player of the Year: Von Miller, Denver Offensive Rookie of the Year: Sam Darnold, NY Jets Defensive Rookie of the Year: Derwin James, LA Chargers Comeback Player of the Year: Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Coach of the Year: Anthony Lynn, LA Chargers AFC Championship Game: LA Chargers def. Jacksonville Jaguars NFC Championship Game: LA Rams def. New Orleans Saints Super Bowl: LA Rams vs LA Chargers Super Bowl Champs: LA Chargers Super Bowl MVP: Phillip Rivers, LA Chargers #1 Overall Pick: Buffalo Bills Nice list. At which point does Darnold take the starting job over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 8 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: AFC East: 1. New England Patriots (#2) 2. New York Jets 3. Miami Dolphins 4. Buffalo Bills AFC North: 1. Pittsburgh Steelers (#3) 2. Baltimore Ravens 3. Cleveland Browns 4. Cincinnati Bengals AFC South: 1. Houston Texans (#4) 2. Jacksonville Jaguars (#5) 3. Indianapolis Colts 4. Tennessee Titans AFC West: 1. Los Angeles Chargers (#1) 2. Denver Broncos (#6) 3. Kansas City Chiefs 4. Oakland Raiders NFC East: 1. Philadelphia Eagles (#3) 2. New York Giants 3. Washington Redskins 4. Dallas Cowboys NFC North: 1. Green Bay Packers (#4) 2. Minnesota Vikings (#6) 3. Chicago Bears 4. Detroit Lions NFC South: 1. New Orleans Saints (#2) 2. Atlanta Falcons (#5) 3. Carolina Panthers 4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFC West: 1. Los Angeles Rams (#1) 2. San Francisco 49ers 3. Arizona Cardinals 4. Seattle Seahawks Most Valuable Player: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Offensive Player of the Year: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Defensive Player of the Year: Von Miller, Denver Offensive Rookie of the Year: Sam Darnold, NY Jets Defensive Rookie of the Year: Derwin James, LA Chargers Comeback Player of the Year: Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Coach of the Year: Anthony Lynn, LA Chargers AFC Championship Game: LA Chargers def. Jacksonville Jaguars NFC Championship Game: LA Rams def. New Orleans Saints Super Bowl: LA Rams vs LA Chargers Super Bowl Champs: LA Chargers Super Bowl MVP: Phillip Rivers, LA Chargers #1 Overall Pick: Buffalo Bills I'm on board with all of this. My only bold prediction apart from yours is Rams being a lot closer to a below .500 team than a #1 seed. Love how you put the first overall pick in there too. Great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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