Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, quiller said: I still think TE is a reach and mistake at that spot How do you know enough right now to say that a tight end picked in the 2nd round will be a reach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, DaBoys said: I think it's unlikely but to your point, AD did go over 1K again this year Exactly what im talking about. Some people just have "it". Incase people don't remember Frank Gore for most of his college career was a walking injury report. I remember scouting him cause I wanted us to draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, D82 said: So, about taking a tackle high.... I am shocked. H/e if one is there in the 3rd or 4th thats a steal I want them. Even Erik McCoy would be a terrific value but with his hype he may go round 2. Edit: Wait I thought he did allow a sack earlier this year. Infact I think I remember there being two. But if this chart is accurate his run blocking must have been in the 50's range. Edited January 8, 2019 by Calvert28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Well I had to think about things a bit and decide the best was to just look at stats like TFL as a percentage or run attempts To be honest I was rather shocked by what I saw. And as I hadn’t mentioned QB hits or sacks before I will include them now as it was not as expected for whole year. We were tackled for a loss in run plays 24% of time. Our opponents 22.5% we rushed only 2.5 more times a game this stat stayed relatively constant 1st half vrs 2nd half we win the percentage stat in 6 games I considered two games a tie (with in 1.5 percent.) We lost the other 8. When we win we win big when we lost we lost big And not oddly if you watched the games this stat was a exact predictor of game result if include tie as a loss for the first 8 games of the season NOW second half the season we lost this stat 4 times by huge margins one tie yet of course only lost 1 of those games. That’s interesting hmmm Wonder what changed The QB hits also are intetesting for year hit at a 21 % rate. 1st half 23% 2nd 20% which is a difference but not too much we passed just 1 attempt less per game then our opponents and our hit rate on them was 20% 1st half 17.1% 2nd hmmm Odd both stats really close slight decrease QB getting hit with a slight increase bad run plays SOOo...... the sacks everyone’s complaint against Dak is where it gets startling to look at year sacked 7% 1st half. 9.7 % 2nd half 4.8% that is a Huge 50% dec in sac rate 1st half 2nd half What does this say. Considering his completion percentage was as good or better 2nd half 1-dak made great strides in avoiding sacks second half of season or 2-improved reciever play allowed Dak to have more open recievers to throw to as pocket collapsed What other comments can be made : as noted above TFL actually increased 25.4 from 22.5 1st half to second and QB hits decreased 20.1 from 23.1. And sacks were cut in half. And we went 7-1 from 3-5 2nd half to 1st WHAT DOES THIS REALLY SAY Well I have my ideas but I am sure they are not popular And thus will remain silient EDIT. Probably should have put in Dak thread or Cooper thread. But this goes to our second round pick. I will be fine NOW with a stud Te or best available Possession type WR to replace Hurns Satety replacement for Heath third option Edited January 9, 2019 by quiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 hours ago, plan9misfit said: I posted this in the college football thread: didn't Johnny Manziel win the Heisman his freshman year? Trevor may be the better pro prospect, but Johnny Football was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Classifying Manziel as a QB makes me cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: didn't Johnny Manziel win the Heisman his freshman year? Trevor may be the better pro prospect, but Johnny Football was amazing. He won it as a redshirt freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Johnny Football May have been the most fun college football player I’ve ever seen. He was a joke as a pro but really was a top notch college QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Slamman said: Johnny Football May have been the most fun college football player I’ve ever seen. He was a joke as a pro but really was a top notch college QB. I’d say that ManFail was certainly the most entertaining college QB that I’ve ever seen and may have been the most electrifying as well. It’s a toss up between him and Kyler Murray. Both are/were outstanding college QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Tebow was also a awesome college QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 So apparently Murray is declaring for the NFL draft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, D82 said: So apparently Murray is declaring for the NFL draft.... He'll be a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: He'll be a 1st round pick. And a bust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, D82 said: And a bust... Maybe. Not many people have been good at consistently predicting QB success. Not people who get paid for it, and not random dudes on the internet. There are too many factors involved, and the environment and NFL QB ends up in is such a huge factor in his success. If Murray ends up in the right situation, with the right coach, he could do some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Maybe. Not many people have been good at consistently predicting QB success. Not people who get paid for it, and not random dudes on the internet. There are too many factors involved, and the environment and NFL QB ends up in is such a huge factor in his success. If Murray ends up in the right situation, with the right coach, he could do some damage. His biggest issue is being so undersized as a QB. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he measures in at 5’8” or 5’9” (as opposed to the 5’10” or 5’11” people list him at) and well under the 195 Lbs he’s often listed at. The talent isn’t in question, that’s for sure. Neither are his work ethic, character, or throwing mechanics. But his small size makes him a serious injury risk. If he was 6’2” and 210-215 Lbs, no one would question anything about him. Edited January 11, 2019 by plan9misfit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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