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QB: Brady/Etling

RB: White/Burkhead/Michel/Hill/Bolden/(Webb)

FB: Develin

LT: Wynn/Waddle

LG: Thuney/(Croston)

C: Andrews/Bowanko

RG: Mason/Karras

RT: Cannon/Brown

TE: Gronkowski/Niklas/Hollister/(Izzo)

WR: Hogan/Mitchell*/Edelman*/Dorsett/Berrios/Patterson/Slater/(McCarron)

K: Gostkowski

P: Allen

LS: Cardona

DE: Clayborn/Wise Jr./(Grissom)

DT: Shelton/Guy

DT: Brown/Valentine/(Atkins)

DE: Flowers/Rivers/Butler/(Davis)

OLB: Van Noy/Sam

LB: Hightower/Roberts/Bentley/(Langi)

CB: J.Jackson/J.Jones

S: Chung/Ebner

S: McCourty/King/(D.Jones)

S: Harmon/Travis

CB: Gilmore/D.Dawson/Crossen/(R.Lewis)

Above updated July 7, 2018.

 

Below updated June 4, 2018:

Brady/Etling

Burkhead/White/Michel/Bolden/(Webb)

Develin

Brown/Waddle

Wynn/(King)/(Croston)

Andrews/Bowanko

Mason/Thuney

Cannon/John

Gronkowski/Hollister/Niklas/(Izzo)

Edelman/Matthews/Britt/Patterson/Berrios/Mitchell/Slater/(McCarron)

Gostkowski

Allen

Cardona

Wise Jr./(Lee)/(Grissom)

Clayborn/Brown/Valentine

Shelton/Guy/Butler

Rivers/Flowers

Hightower/Bentley/Langi

Van Noy/Sam

Gilmore/J. McCourty/Crossen

D. McCourty/Harmon/Ebner

Chung/King/(Travis)

Dawson/J. Jones/(Jackson)/(Lewis)

Edited by DoleINGout
tough Dwayne Allen cut

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On 5/2/2018 at 3:30 PM, Yin-Yang said:

The 2019 offseason will be a very, very difficult one.

Jason McCourty, Eric Rowe, Jonathon Jones, Shaq Mason, Chris Hogan, Trey Flowers, Malcolm Brown, Danny Shelton...then there’s the guys who are on one year deals (although they may not make the roster) in Matthews, Gillislee, Hill, Patterson, Britt, and Dorsett. 

There’s going to be a lot more turnover than we’re used to, no way of getting out of that. 

Definitely Gone: Eric Rowe, Chris Hogan, Trey Flowers, Mike Gillislee, Jeremy Hill, Phillip Dorsett, Jordan Richards, Cyrus Jones, Brian Hoyer, Marqise Flowers, Will Tye, Ulrick John, Matt Tobin, Luke Bowanko

Probably Gone: Jason McCourty, Shaq Mason, Kenny Britt, Jordan Matthews, Cordarelle Patterson, LaAdrian Waddle, David Jones (ERFA), Cody Hollister (ERFA), Jomal Wiltz (ERFA), Nicholas Grigaby (RFA), James Ferentz (RFA)

Definitely Returning: Malcolm Brown, Danny Shelton (5th year option rookie contract), Jonathan Jones (RFA)

Other FA: Trenton Brown, Stephen Gostkowski, Ryan Allen, Joe Cardona, James Develin, Troy Niklas, Brandon Bolden, Eric Lee (ERFA), Damarius Travis (ERFA), Riley McCarron (ERFA), Jason King (ERFA), Ryan Lewis (ERFA)

 

Potential Cuts: Kyle Van Noy, Devin McCourty, Dont'a Hightower, Marcus Cannon, Tom Brady, Duron Harmon, Matthew Slater, Malcolm Mitchell, Nate Ebner

The Patriots roster is getting talented young players on defense that will hopefully continue to develop alongside Dont'a Hightower, Devin McCourty and Stephon Gilmore. On offense it looks like Rob Gronkowski will carry the load a while longer with potential for Brady and Edelman to get one more contract extention. The biggest mystery is what happens with the Patriots top coaches? Bill Belichick, Dante Scarrnechia, Josh McDaniels, Brian Flores, Chad O'Shea, and management Ernie Adams and Nick Caserio?

Edited by DoleINGout

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I think it's looking more and more like CB J.C. Jackson's got a good shot to make the team.

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My Current Roster Picks (Starters In Italics):

QB: Tom Brady, Danny Etling - Brady is obviously going to be the starting quarterback for the Patriots and I think the Patriots might want to keep Etling around as a developmental guy. If needed during the season they can cut him and pick up a veteran, but Etling has more potential than Hoyer because of his age.

RB: Sony Michel, James White, Rex Burkhead, Brandon Bolden, James Develin (FB) - I had a high grade on Michel going into the draft because of his impressive ability to churn out yardage and rip off long runs with solid burst and balance. White is arguably the best receiving back in the game, so he's a lock as well. Burkhead, who just signed an extension with New England, offers value running both outside and in, and is a more-than-capable receiver. Bolden is a solid special teams player who should stick around, and Develin is one of the best fullbacks in the game.

WR: Malcolm Mitchell, Chris Hogan, Phillip Dorsett, Cordarelle Patterson, Jordan Matthews, Braxton Berrios, Matthew Slater - Edelman is suspended for four games so he won't count against the initial 53. I like Mitchell's chances to open as the WR1 if he stays healthy. He's a careful route-runner with solid athleticism and strong hands. I'm looking for McDaniels to feature him on some comebacks, which he burned Falcons CBs on in Super Bowl LI. Hogan isn't the fastest of receivers but has the athletic profile to be a solid deep threat, which the Patriots will definitely need without Brandin Cooks. I also see Dorsett as the games 1-4 starter in the slot. He ended the season impressively, showing how he can be used as a fast and dangerously quick slot receiver. The Patriots value quickness in the slot, and Dorsett has the burst to be a solid target for Tom. Obviously, Dorsett and White would split time starting to keep at 11 starters. Patterson and Slater will stick for their special teams ability and some passing game talents, and Matthews and Berrios are talented slot receivers worth keeping.

TE: Rob Gronkowski, Jacob Hollister - Gronkowski is the best tight end in the history of football and will continue to be a dominant talent. I see Hollister as his backup because of his potential and passing game ability. Hollister is probably the best athlete of the tight ends in the running for Gronk's backup, as guys like Will Tye and Ryan Izzo are more of in-line blocking tight ends. Hollister has room to grow but is looking like an impressive receiver.

OL: Trent Brown, Joe Thuney, David Andrews, Shaq Mason, Marcus Cannon, Isaiah Wynn, Cole Croston - Brown, Andrews, Mason, and Cannon are locks to make the roster. I like Brown's chances of starting at left tackle because of his experience in the NFL and his ability to deal with athletic rushers (Von Miller called him the "best right tackle in football"). Andrews is unquestionably the best center on the roster, and Mason and Cannon are decorated options on the right side. Wynn is going to challenge Thuney to start, but I think to start the season the Patriots will likely give Thuney the start and see what works. If Brown or Thuney struggle, Wynn will be plugged in, but with his experience, I think Thuney has a better chance to start at LG than Wynn. The last lineman I see the Patriots keeping is Cole Croston. Croston doesn't have the experience that LaAdrian Waddle has, but Croston is a guy with left-tackle potential who I wouldn't want to risk letting go. He would not clear waivers.

DE: Trey Flowers, Deatrich Wise Jr., Adrian Clayborn, Derek Rivers, Eric Lee - Trey Flowers is a great defensive end who is the Patriots' best pass rusher. Starting on the left side, I think Wise may have an edge over Clayborn because of his solid showing and experience as specifically a Patriot, but I think the team is likely to rotate between a starting line of all of the guys I have the team keeping. Rivers is an explosive edge rusher who may have lost a step after tearing an ACL. Lee proved last season that he can be a playmaking and athletic defensive end for the Patriots who even has some coverage ability.

DT: Malcom Brown, Danny Shelton, Adam Butler, Lawrence Guy - All four of these guys are solid bets to make the roster. Brown is a solid defensive tackle, whereas the trade for Shelton makes him a lock barring a Kony Ealy-like campaign. Butler and Guy both showed ability as swing DT-DEs last season. I think the Patriots' defensive line could surprise people, as all of these guys have ability and I think all will be rotated in. Any four could really play at any time, Flowers-Wise-Butler-Brown, Flowers-Brown-Butler-Clayborn, you name it.

LB: Dont'a Hightower, Christian Sam, Kyle Van Noy, Marquis Flowers, Elandon Roberts, Ja'whaun Bentley, Harvey Langi - Hightower is the best player on the Patriots' defense, with explosive pass-rushing ability and solid range. I think Sam will start over Van Noy because he's an explosive tackler with good-enough range whereas Van Noy has some stiffness. Flowers is the athletic linebacker of the list who will likely be a 3rd-down specialist against tight ends and running backs. Bentley, Roberts, and Langi are guys with decent ceilings who could step in if anyone else takes a step back. Roberts will be looking to improve off of a great rookie campaign that featured his solid athleticism, and a second campaign that showed lesser athletic prowess. 

CB: Stephon Gilmore, Jonathan Jones, Jason McCourty, Duke Dawson, J.C. Jackson, Keion Crossen - With the Patriots running a Big Nickel package, only two CBs can start most games. Gilmore is the best of the group and will obviously start after showing signs of the potential the Patriots signed him for late in the year. My pick to start opposite him is Jonathan Jones, who I think is comparable to the lost Malcolm Butler. Jones has the recovery athleticism and speed to match up with even the fastest No. 2 targets, and demonstrated solid aggressiveness with some forced fumbles and forced incompletions last year. McCourty is a physical corner who will probably play against bigger but not as fast targets, while Dawson is more of a slot cornerback. Jackson and Crossen are great athletes who have shots to stick around and eventually be starters.

S: Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Duron Harmon, Nate Ebner, Brandon King - McCourty is the quarterback of the secondary and can be counted on to start, as can Chung and Harmon. Harmon is one of the best center-fielding safeties in football, and gives Patriots cornerbacks confidence behind them. Chung is solid as a box safety and is a prototypical strong safety. Ebner and King will stick around for their special teams ability, whereas I see the Patriots opting to keep an athletic corner like Crossen or Jackson or a thumping linebacker like Bentley than Jordan Richards, who has proven he hasn't been able to even be average in any facet of the game really.

K: Stephen Gostkowski

P: Ryan Allen - Allen doesn't have a great leg but will probably beat out Bojorquez.

LS: Joe Cardona
 

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QB: Brady/Etling

RB: Burkhead/Michel/Hill/Bolden/Patterson/(Webb)

FB: Develin

LT: Wynn/Waddle

LG: Thuney/Croston

C: Andrews

RG: Mason

RT: Cannon/Brown

TE: Gronkowski/Niklas/Hollister/(Izzo)

WR: Hogan/Mitchell/Edelman*/Dorsett/Berrios/Slater/(McCarron)

K: Gostkowski

P: Allen

LS: Cardona

DE: Clayborn/Wise Jr./(Grissom)

DT: Shelton/Guy

DT: Brown/Valentine/(Atkins)

DE: Flowers/Rivers/Butler/(Davis)

OLB: Van Noy/Sam/Flowers

LB: Hightower/Bentley/Roberts/(Langi)

CB: J.Jackson/J.Jones

S: Chung/Ebner

S: McCourty/King/(D.Jones)

S: Harmon/Travis

CB: Gilmore/D.Dawson/Crossen/(R.Lewis)

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Posted (edited)

Well Troy Niklas was cut. I really liked him. Too bad. I'll ammend my roster predictions to include:

 

-James White at RB. (replaces Niklas)

-Jordan Matthews at WR (if Malcolm Mitchell stays on PUP)

-Jason McCourty at CB (if Jonathan Jones stays on PUP)

Edited by DoleINGout

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Final:

QB: Brady/Hoyer/(Etling)

RB: Burkhead/Hill/White/Michel/Bolden

FB: Develin

LT: Brown/Wynn

LG: Thuney/Croston

C: Andrews

RG: Mason/(Karras)

RT: Cannon/Waddle

TE: Gronkowski/Allen/Hollister/(Izzo)

WR: Hogan/Dorsett/Decker/Patterson/Berrios/Slater/(McCarron)

K: Gostkowski

P: Allen

LS: Cardona

DE: Wise Jr./Butler/Grissom

DT: Clayborn/Guy/(Valentine)

DT: Shelton/Brown/(Atkins)

DE: Flowers/Rivers/(Davis)

OLB: Van Noy/Sam

LB: Hightower/Bentley/Roberts/(Langi)

CB: Rowe/J.Jackson/McCourty

S: Chung/Richard

S: McCourty/King

S: Harmon/(Travis)

CB: Gilmore/D.Dawson/Crossen/(R.Lewis)

 

Edelman* (SUS)

Ebner* (PUP)

J.Jones* (PUP)

Mitchell* (PUP/IR)

Britt* (PUP/IR)

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7/12 edition.

QB: Tom Brady, Brian Hoyer - 2*

RB: James White, Rex Burkhead, Sony Michel, Jeremy Hill, James Develin - 5*

WR: Chris Hogan, Phillip Dorsett, Eric Decker, Cordarrelle Patterson, Matthew Slater, Braxton Berrios - 6*

TE: Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Jacob Hollister - 3*

OL: Trent Brown, Joe Thuney, David Andrews, Shaq Mason, Marcus Cannon, Isaiah Wynn, La'Adrian Waddle, Ted Karras - 8*

DL: Trey Flowers, Adrian Clayborn, Danny Shelton, Malcolm Brown, Adam Butler, Lawrence Guy, Derek Rivers, Deatrich Wise - 8*

LB - Dont'a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Elandon Roberts, Ja'Whaun Bentley, Marquis Flowers, Nicholas Grigsby, Brandon King - 7*

CB: Stephon Gilmore, Eric Rowe, Jason McCourty, Duke Dawson, Jonathon Jones, JC Jackson - 6*

S: Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Duron Harmon, Jordan Richards, Nate Ebner - 5*

ST: Stephen Gostkowski, Ryan Allen, Joe Cardona - 3*

 

Notes:

- Danny Etling gets sent to the PS, along with other 2018 draft hopefuls Christian Sam and Ryan Izzo.

- Jeremy Hill, showing a little bit of catching/special team versatility, beats out Mike Gillislee as the team's bigger runner.

- Braxton Berrios makes the roster as a potential returner, largely because he'd likely be taken before reaching the PS.

- Special teamers Brandon Bolden and Geneo Grissom don't make it.

- UDFAs Ralph Webb and Keion Crossen sent to the PS.

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1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said:

Christian Sam and Ryan Izzo.

 

1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said:

Keion Crossen sent to the PS.

Hopefully they all make it through waivers.

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Final Pre-Mature (but not as pre-mature now) 53-man roster prediction:

 

Ready?

 

Okay!

 

PUP: Sony Michel, Rex Burkhead, Dwayne Allen, Isaiah Wynn, Marquis Flowers, Trey Flowers, Trent Harris (7)

PS: Danny Etling, Henry Poggi, Devin Lucien, Paul Turner, Jason King, Cole Croston, Harvey Langi, Christian Sam, Ryan Lewis, JC Jackson (10)

QB: Brady, Hoyer (2)

RB: White, Hill, Develin, Gillislee, Webb (5)

TE: Gronkowski, Hollister, Tye, Izzo (4)

WR: Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson, Decker, Berrios, Slater (6)

OT: Brown, Cannon, Waddle, Tobin (4)

OG: Thuney, Mason, John (3)

C: Andrews, Ferentz (2)

Offense: 26

 

RCB: J. Jones, C. Jones (3)

FS: McCourty, Harmon (2)

ROLB: Roberts, Grigsby (2)

RE: Wise, Davis (2)

UT: Guy, Shelton (2)

NT: Brown, Valentine, Butler (3)

LE: Clayborn, Rivers (2)

LOLB: Van Noy, King (2)

MLB: Hightower, Bentley (2)

SS: Chung, Ebner (2)

LCB: Gilmore, Dawson, Crossen (3)

Defense: 24

 

K: Gostkowski (1)

P: Allen (1)

LS: Cardona (1)

Specialists: 3

Total: 53

 

Surprise Omissions: Brandon Bolden, Riley McCarron, Ted Karras, Eric Lee, Geno Grissom, Eric Rowe, Jason McCourty, Jordan Richards

Edited by DoleINGout

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11 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

 

Surprise Omissions: Philip Dorsett, Cordarelle Patterson, Ted Karras, Eric Rowe, Jordan Richards, Eric Lee, Geno Grissom, Nate Ebner, Cyrus Jones

highly doubt Patterson gets cut.

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4 minutes ago, AlNFL19 said:

highly doubt Patterson gets cut.

I do too but if he isn't practicing with first team and barely with second team while not getting reps as a kick ir ount returner... like yesterday... then I don't know if they will keep him for ST coverage when they've already got so many guys who do that

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6 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

I do too but if he isn't practicing with first team and barely with second team while not getting reps as a kick ir ount returner... like yesterday... then I don't know if they will keep him for ST coverage when they've already got so many guys who do that

A lot of people seem to think he is a lock due to his kick return ability. With the new kickoff rules, the value of a KR is less the yards back and more just someone who can reliable catch the ball. He has only returned one punt in his entire career. 

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On 8/15/2018 at 5:37 PM, Deadpulse said:

A lot of people seem to think he is a lock due to his kick return ability. With the new kickoff rules, the value of a KR is less the yards back and more just someone who can reliable catch the ball. He has only returned one punt in his entire career. 

He showed out tonight. Making modifications to my last post to include Patterson.

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