buno67 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Don’t want to count the eggs before they hatch but when was the last time a browns player won rookie of the year? Mack ‘85 Banks in ‘82 Mitchell ‘58 Brown ‘57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 hours ago, TheeRealDeal said: Everyone had Chubb and Fitz in the Top 5 all the way up to the draft., No... no they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, pnies20 said: No... no they didn't. I think he's generalizing, not being literal. Chubb was beat consensus top 5, and Fitzpatrick was beat consensus top 5 until a month or two before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: I think he's generalizing, not being literal. Chubb was beat consensus top 5, and Fitzpatrick was beat consensus top 5 until a month or two before the draft. I know he was. I'm just saying I was pretty vocal about hating Chubb in the top 5. I thought he was a 10-20 range prospect. I also was pretty low on Fitzpatrick. I though James would be the better S. I thought they were both in the 5-15 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, pnies20 said: I know he was. I'm just saying I was pretty vocal about hating Chubb in the top 5. I thought he was a 10-20 range prospect. I also was pretty low on Fitzpatrick. I though James would be the better S. I thought they were both in the 5-15 range. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 My thoughts were Darnold at 1 or bust and then trade down ot nelson at 4. Then as the draft rolled on I thought WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoGrahamsGhost Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: My thoughts were Darnold at 1 or bust and then trade down ot nelson at 4. Then as the draft rolled on I thought WTF. I was Darnold at 1 and I liked a trade down but was intrigued by ward. Wasn’t a big Chubb fan. My interest in ward felt like homerism and need, I’m glad it wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, OttoGrahamsGhost said: I was Darnold at 1 and I liked a trade down but was intrigued by ward. Wasn’t a big Chubb fan. My interest in ward felt like homerism and need, I’m glad it wasn’t. I was anti chubb as well. the man is a brick, he doesn't look to bend that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AkronsWitness Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 11:48 AM, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Peppers was highlighted because of his versatility and on-field accomplishments, which are much more traditional/normal now. Tebow was a “star” in large part because of his personality and faith, JFF his attitude and production. Tebow will always be a draw to the Christian fans, JFF comtinued to be a sideshow off the field and his epic flameout was noteworthy. Peppers was always just a dude playing football, and still is, now he’s playing a more traditional role. Also, Peppers wasn’t the star the other two were, you probably just got inundated with it because of your location and the local media. **And the fact that Tebow has a winning record as a starter with a playoff win over the #1 ranked defense in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, OttoGrahamsGhost said: My interest in ward felt like homerism and need, I’m glad it wasn’t. Well it evidently was, but he turned out better than you imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 @Kiwibrown In reference to your video--- as soon as Ward learns how to flip his hips when hes running downfield and not just basically faceguard (which he was taught by Coombs) he is going to be next level. I dont expect that for another 2-3 years, but if learns that he is a athlete that can keep up with WRs on go routes while keeping his head turned looking at the QB to know when he throws, hes going to be next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: @Kiwibrown In reference to your video--- as soon as Ward learns how to flip his hips when hes running downfield and not just basically faceguard (which he was taught by Coombs) he is going to be next level. I dont expect that for another 2-3 years, but if learns that he is a athlete that can keep up with WRs on go routes while keeping his head turned looking at the QB to know when he throws, hes going to be next level. I remember some people, not sure if it was you or others talking about Ward or OSU corners not locating the ball, but just sticking to their man. I am glad ard finds the ball, he maybe better than Marshon Lattimore which is huge. I don't know all the technical terms but he suck like crap to a blanket most of the time with John Brown I think Ill be pissed when they stop throwing at him and has one of those years where plays lights out and has 30 tackles, 1 int and 10 pass deflections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: I remember some people, not sure if it was you or others talking about Ward or OSU corners not locating the ball, but just sticking to their man. I am glad ard finds the ball, he maybe better than Marshon Lattimore which is huge. I don't know all the technical terms but he suck like crap to a blanket most of the time with John Brown I think Ill be pissed when they stop throwing at him and has one of those years where plays lights out and has 30 tackles, 1 int and 10 pass deflections. Yep, but that takes time to learn. He is fantastic right now for where he is at. I remember (my comp for his play style) Champ Bailey was a insane athlete as well, about in 2005 he learned how to run stride for stride with WRs downfield with his hips open. Which makes him **homer alert** the best cover corner Ive seen. He mastered the ability to use his 4.3 speed/quickness/technique to actually run laterally down the field stuck to the WRs hip. Almost shielding the WR between the ball and sideline on a full sprint while his eyes were on the QB the entire time. Which led to a lot of his INTs. He wouldnt run straight and look back--but run with his hips open the entire time downfield if that makes sense. Ward I feel like has the smarts, technique and athleticism to learn the same thing over time. I hope he gets there because he clearly has the cover/PBU ability. What will really make QBs fear him is knowing he is always waiting on the route with his eyes on the QB downfield. Ward is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 @AkronsWitness What we have is A franchise Qb Cb De DT And good offensiveline, we just need to keep the roster filled with good players around them and we are set for the next 4-5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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