ditchdigger Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 10:54 AM, MWil23 said: I'm trying to legitimately think of guys who have threatened to leave and followed through after things like this. He's definitely one. Ditch is kind of half in/half out.Ā Just the way I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 7:57 AM, jking948 said: I was high on Ward after we drafted him, and he has looked like an impressive rookie this preseason, so here is my analysis. Ward has played 34 snaps this preseason, with 21 in coverage. Out of those 21, he allowed five catches on six targets, but limited those catches to 36 total yards and only one first down.What is more impressive is that, on all 34 snaps, Ward has covered the other team's primary corner. So out of 21 passing plays, the #1 opposing wide receiver has only caught five passes, and averaged a little over seven yards per catch.Ward definitely looks like a rookie. He has struggled when he gets beat on short-yard pass attempts. Nonetheless, even on those attempts, he recovers well, and he has been elite at defending intermediate- and long-range passes. excellent thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 11:48 AM, buno67 said: Also would you count getting beat on a short yard pass attempt as a failure? If a QB wants to throw a short pass let him. You trust the defense to pursuit to the ball. I wouldnāt want to get beat on any kind of pass but I would rather get beat on a short pass then a medium or long pass. Short pass still most likely makes them face a 2nd or 3rd. With Garrett a 2nd and short can easily turn into a 3rd and medium or 3rd and long in a heart beat!!! Generally I agree with this with the exception being when you play 10-12 yards off to allow short passes which creates a lot of one on one opportunities for the offense in the open field. (See 2017 Browns defense). Short *reasonably contested* completions I can live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Generally I agree with this with the exception being when you play 10-12 yards off to allow short passes which creates a lot of one on one opportunities for the offense in the open field. (See 2017 Browns defense). Short *reasonably contested* completions I can live with. Yes. "Zone tech" at 5-7 yards, allow a hitch completion, and a tackle at 3-6 yards is different than what we did all last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Yes. "Zone tech" at 5-7 yards, allow a hitch completion, and a tackle at 3-6 yards is different than what we did all last year. Yeah man, we utilizedĀ āHail Mary techā. Even on 3rd and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah man, we utilizedĀ āHail Mary techā. Even on 3rd and 3. Blows my mind.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Blows my mind.Ā These fools canāt even get me to raise an eyebrow anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Anybody else find it weird that Ward was basically never even brought up on Hard Knocks despite being the #4 overall pick. No features, no cameras, no time, ect. Its almost like Ward even from the national media is flying farrrr under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Anybody else find it weird that Ward was basically never even brought up on Hard Knocks despite being the #4 overall pick. No features, no cameras, no time, ect. Its almost like Ward even from the national media is flying farrrr under the radar. He is a pretty boring dude so far. Hard working, heaps of talent. Potential to be top 5 in the nfl. Not funny. I think we can over estimate what a 21 year old has to say. He is a kid that can run fast and ball out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, Kiwibrown said: He is a pretty boring dude so far. Hard working, heaps of talent. Potential to be top 5 in the nfl. Not funny. I think we can over estimate what a 21 year old has to say. He is a kid that can run fast and ball out. I get that, but its just still weird that they never even bothered to give the #4 overall pick even 5 mins of highlight time. I even watch all of the nation NFL Network guys on shows and tey almost never bring up "the Browns have Denzel Ward in the secondary" discussion. Its weird. Like he doesnt exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 8 hours ago, AkronsWitness said: I get that, but its just still weird that they never even bothered to give the #4 overall pick even 5 mins of highlight time. I even watch all of the nation NFL Network guys on shows and tey almost never bring up "the Browns have Denzel Ward in the secondary" discussion. Its weird. Like he doesnt exist. More shocked about Peppers considering the world wouldn't shut up about him 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, roger murdock said: More shocked about Peppers considering the world wouldn't shut up about him 2 years ago. Eh, what he was doing at Michigan was a lot more exciting than just playing SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Eh, what he was doing at Michigan was a lot more exciting than just playing SS. I completely agree. But he went from being a larger than life CFB star to a decent NFL player and it went suddenly quiet. Manziel and Tebow were bench scrubs and NFL trash and they couldn't escape the media. Peppers just sort of became ordinary. Its weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, roger murdock said: I completely agree. But he went from being a larger than life CFB star to a decent NFL player and it went suddenly quiet. Manziel and Tebow were bench scrubs and NFL trash and they couldn't escape the media. Peppers just sort of became ordinary. Its weird. He failed a test at the combine, my speculation is that he may have been juicing.Ā He doesn't play like a 4.4 guy and he doesn't look as explosive as he did when he was across the lake. Ot where ever the hell Michigan is.Ā Your country is to big.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, roger murdock said: I completely agree. But he went from being a larger than life CFB star to a decent NFL player and it went suddenly quiet. Manziel and Tebow were bench scrubs and NFL trash and they couldn't escape the media. Peppers just sort of became ordinary. Its weird. Peppers was highlighted because of his versatility and on-field accomplishments, which are much more traditional/normal now. Tebow was a āstarā in large part because of his personality and faith, JFF his attitude and production. Tebow will always be a draw to the Christian fans, JFF comtinued to be a sideshow off the field and his epic flameout was noteworthy. Peppers was always just a dude playing football, and still is, now heās playing a more traditional role. Ā Also, Peppers wasnāt the star the other two were, you probably just got inundated with it because of your location and the local media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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