DingoLadd Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, DraftHobbyist said: Absolutely. Unfortunately, perception will probably win out, but Alex Smith is playing a heck of a lot better than Matt Ryan. I guess by that logic I should start Dalton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraftHobbyist Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, DingoLadd said: I guess by that logic I should start Dalton too. This is starting to get ridiculous with you guys saying, "I should start X guy over Y guy then, right?" Passer rating is a very good indicator of how a QB is playing. Give me a break with this crap where Dalton has a 90.6 and Rivers has an 87.8. No, I wouldn't start Dalton over Rivers because of a 2.8 difference in passer rating. Do I really have to explain this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Happy birthday bcb! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 32 minutes ago, DraftHobbyist said: This is starting to get ridiculous with you guys saying, "I should start X guy over Y guy then, right?" Passer rating is a very good indicator of how a QB is playing. Give me a break with this crap where Dalton has a 90.6 and Rivers has an 87.8. No, I wouldn't start Dalton over Rivers because of a 2.8 difference in passer rating. Do I really have to explain this? Nah mate I'm just messing with ya, I get the point you're making I just like to have a go at people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 12 hours ago, TedLavie said: I guess I should start Alex Smith then? Yes, yes you should. In all honesty Alex Smith has been flawless so far this year so that's a bad example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I think Ryan fits Ted's offense a bit better so i'd persist with Ryan, but all else equal Smith has been better and frankly he's been the best QB in the league this year not named Brady, Brees or Rodgers. On historical performance I'd trust Ryan over the course of a season because generally he's been the better QB throughout his career, but on a week to week basis at the moment in the BDL format I'd be going with Smith assuming an equal fit to the rest of the offense. On a side note I'm glad Smith's playing so well and finally getting the recognition he deserves. I've long thought he was underrated and the whole game manager thing was a bit silly. Throwing deep =/= being a good QB. I think he's comfortably been in that top 15 discussion for some time now, most of his KC years for sure. Realistically he operates the offense very similar to the way Brady does, without getting the same plaudits. Obviously he's no Brady, but he hasn't had near 20 years of continuity behind him either. Further to that point I don't think a "limited" offense is necessarily a bad one either. Give me consistent 6-7 yard gains and sustained drives over the big plays. I don't think it's too much of a surprise that as the OL has improved from year to year in KC and the offensive weapons are better and more diverse, we're seeing him really kick on. Obviously not my favourite thing in the world as a Broncos fan but credit where credit is due, Smith's balling out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WFLukic said: I think Ryan fits Ted's offense a bit better so i'd persist with Ryan, but all else equal Smith has been better and frankly he's been the best QB in the league this year not named Brady, Brees or Rodgers. On historical performance I'd trust Ryan over the course of a season because generally he's been the better QB throughout his career, but on a week to week basis at the moment in the BDL format I'd be going with Smith assuming an equal fit to the rest of the offense. On a side note I'm glad Smith's playing so well and finally getting the recognition he deserves. I've long thought he was underrated and the whole game manager thing was a bit silly. Throwing deep =/= being a good QB. I think he's comfortably been in that top 15 discussion for some time now, most of his KC years for sure. Realistically he operates the offense very similar to the way Brady does, without getting the same plaudits. Obviously he's no Brady, but he hasn't had near 20 years of continuity behind him either. Further to that point I don't think a "limited" offense is necessarily a bad one either. Give me consistent 6-7 yard gains and sustained drives over the big plays. I don't think it's too much of a surprise that as the OL has improved from year to year in KC and the offensive weapons are better and more diverse, we're seeing him really kick on. Obviously not my favourite thing in the world as a Broncos fan but credit where credit is due, Smith's balling out. I don't think you can fault Ted for starting either guy. But Ryan is the bigger name and reigning MVP so he's probably better off. And the criticism of Smith being a game manager was fair, to me. So many analysts broke down tape of him seeing a WR open down field and electing to check down to the safer option. That limited the offense for a while. This year it seems like he's letting it fly a bit more. edit: And no one said he was a bad QB when he was happy to check down all game, it just said it limited the versatility of the offense because he refused to threaten down field. Edited October 7, 2017 by Jlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jlash said: I don't think you can fault Ted for starting either guy. But Ryan is the bigger name and reigning MVP so he's probably better off. And the criticism of Smith being a game manager was fair, to me. So many analysts broke down tape of him seeing a WR open down field and electing to check down to the safer option. That limited the offense for a while. This year it seems like he's letting it fly a bit more. edit: And no one said he was a bad QB when he was happy to check down all game, it just said it limited the versatility of the offense because he refused to threaten down field. Arguably, a large part of that was likely due to the weapons he had on hand and not trusting them to make the necessary play. The growth of Hill, addition of Hunt, and constant over the past couple years in Kelce has given him more reason to take those shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Ragnarok said: Arguably, a large part of that was likely due to the weapons he had on hand and not trusting them to make the necessary play. The growth of Hill, addition of Hunt, and constant over the past couple years in Kelce has given him more reason to take those shots. Don't blame the players that he's not throwing the ball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Does London get to use Bortles this week? I need to know for my write up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Counselor said: Does London get to use Bortles this week? I need to know for my write up They can yes. You can always mention the issues a QB would have coming in and learning a system with 3 days prep though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: They can yes. You can always mention the issues a QB would have coming in and learning a system with 3 days prep though. Oh these games are played on Sunday since everyone wants to use sunday performances in their evaluations. So a one day prep is more like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Lets get it Edited October 7, 2017 by Counselor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Nevermind? Edited October 7, 2017 by Ragnarok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Nevermind? Didn't want to create an uproar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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