RpMc Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Vikes_Bolts1228 said: Situation: Vikings are on the clock at 18. There's no worthwhile offensive linemen. There's a top receiving tight end or two left on the board. Do you grab the tight end or try and trade back? If the TE is Hockenson (assuming he declares), I run up with his name on the card, and cackle as I run back to my seat. He impacts the pass and run game. Then, I look to make some moves up and around the next two rounds to secure some offensive lineman or a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Already 90 declared underclassmen and we've got 10 days until the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RpMc said: If the TE is Hockenson (assuming he declares), I run up with his name on the card, and cackle as I run back to my seat. He impacts the pass and run game. Then, I look to make some moves up and around the next two rounds to secure some offensive lineman or a DT. Were going to keep seeming him rise and rise up the boards and I’m all here for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes_Bolts1228 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, gopherwrestler said: Were going to keep seeming him rise and rise up the boards and I’m all here for it. My Jockey's get a little tight in the crotch area thinking about having an elite pass catching TE who can run and break more tackles on one play then Rudy had in 8 seasons. So about 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 15 hours ago, Vikes_Bolts1228 said: Situation: Vikings are on the clock at 18. There's no worthwhile offensive linemen. There's a top receiving tight end or two left on the board. Do you grab the tight end or try and trade back? Take whatever OL you think is a starter. There will be starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: Take whatever OL you think is a starter. There will be starters. And what if you don't think they are a starter? Receiver 3 is a definite need, whether that be a TE or WR. I'd love to get a big TE that is a matchup nightmare who can also block. Seems like Rudolph is fairly easy to cover, has no YAC ability and struggles as a blocker. If not OL or TE, I think this team needs another impact pass rusher, whether that be at DE or DT. Griffen, Weatherly and Richardsom are okay, but we could really use another player who can push 10-12 sacks per year. Maybe Griffen will return to that level of play. Another DB or LB would be a mistake in round one, even if Barr walks. Just don't see the value in a round one off ball LB. Wouldn't touch a WR in round one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Take the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 hours ago, PrplChilPill said: Take whatever OL you think is a starter. There will be starters. You trade back though and maximize your value first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, SteelKing728 said: You trade back though and maximize your value first. I don’t disagree but it would depend on how far back. I’d love to trade back a few spots depending on the board. Always takes two to tango though. Again, the more non-trench positions that go ahead of 18 the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 hours ago, vikingsrule said: And what if you don't think they are a starter? Receiver 3 is a definite need, whether that be a TE or WR. I'd love to get a big TE that is a matchup nightmare who can also block. Seems like Rudolph is fairly easy to cover, has no YAC ability and struggles as a blocker. If not OL or TE, I think this team needs another impact pass rusher, whether that be at DE or DT. Griffen, Weatherly and Richardsom are okay, but we could really use another player who can push 10-12 sacks per year. Maybe Griffen will return to that level of play. Another DB or LB would be a mistake in round one, even if Barr walks. Just don't see the value in a round one off ball LB. Wouldn't touch a WR in round one either. Has there every been a draft where no OL past pick 18 was a starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, PrplChilPill said: Has there every been a draft where no OL past pick 18 was a starter? No, but is it worth it to pick them at 18, if you don't value them there and have other players, at positions of need (maybe not as desperate a need), that you do value there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, RpMc said: No, but is it worth it to pick them at 18, if you don't value them there and have other players, at positions of need (maybe not as desperate a need), that you do value there? I'd trade my first for a starting guard for five years...... Wouldn't you? They need two new guards. I value starters, where the team is most weak. This is a super bowl contender, except OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: I'd trade my first for a starting guard for five years...... Wouldn't you? They need two new guards. I value starters, where the team is most weak. This is a super bowl contender, except OL. No, I wouldn't trade my first for a five year starter; perhaps I'm idealistic, but I want my first round pick to be here longer than that. We have need of starters at other positions as well. Now, I fully expect there to be OL of matching value at 18, but in the scenario provided by the original poster... I wouldn't force a pick of offensive line if I didn't have value that matched and a player at another position of need did match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, RpMc said: No, I wouldn't trade my first for a five year starter; perhaps I'm idealistic, but I want my first round pick to be here longer than that. We have need of starters at other positions as well. Now, I fully expect there to be OL of matching value at 18, but in the scenario provided by the original poster... I wouldn't force a pick of offensive line if I didn't have value that matched and a player at another position of need did match. Their contact is for five years. That's all I meant...... Of course you want them longer, but that's a different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 For fun scenario. The Vikings covet Cody Ford but he goes off the board just before them. The Chargers come calling wanted to grab their QB of the future to groom behind Rivers for a year. They offer their first (pick 30) and second for our pick 18 (basically a dead even trade on the TVC). Then the fun starts 1 - Dalton Risner [OL] Kansas State *trade* 40 + 72 for pick 33 2 - Chris Lindstrom [G] Boston College 2 - Isaac Nauta [TE] Georgia 4 - Gerald Willis [DT] Miami 6, 6, 7, 7 left to play with Potential offensive line combos... Reiff Risner Elflein Lindstrom O'Neill or O'Neill Reiff Elflein Lindstrom Risner I forgot how much I enjoy the fun that is draft season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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