fluhartz Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 8:24 PM, theJ said: Steelers Browns Ravens Bengals Feeling very optimistic tonight haha. is that you (insert name of dumb *** talking head/media member)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futbudds Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Bengals 12-4 Stillers 9-7 wc Brownies 8-8 Ravens 7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Why does anyone think the Browns are going to win 7 or more games? They pretty much threw in the towel on the 2018 season when they kept Hue after records of 1-15 and 0-16. Then they blew the offseason by not doing much in free agency and had to use top 4 picks on a QB and CB. Imagine if they had hired Canton's Josh McDaniels, and signed Cousins or Keenum plus Malcolm Butler or Trumaine Johnson. They could have used the picks on Barkley and Chubb. Never change Jimmy Haslam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: Then they blew the offseason by not doing much in free agency Carlos Hyde, Chris Smith in FA (plus a bunch of others) Tyrod Taylor and Jarvis Landry in trades. Plus Josh Gordon is back. They didn't do nothing. I think they'll be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 15 hours ago, theJ said: Carlos Hyde, Chris Smith in FA (plus a bunch of others) Tyrod Taylor and Jarvis Landry in trades. Plus Josh Gordon is back. They didn't do nothing. I think they'll be competitive. They had $110 million in cap space. They replaced Isiah Crowell with Carlos Hyde. Big deal. Chris Smith was a backup with us and will be a backup with them. If they'd hired a coach to give them a fresh start and signed a top QB and CB, they be much better off. They could have traded for Michael Bennett or Aquib Talib or Marcus Peters. Tyrod Taylor isn't very good. If Mayfield stays on the bench, then they aren't getting much from the top pick. Imagine what they could have done if Haslam had fired Hue, apologized to the city for 0-16, dropped ticket and concession prices to get back to sellouts, brought in a good coach who talked Joe Thomas into returning, made some better trades, signed Cousins for $30 mil per year and used the top pick on Barkley or traded it for a boatload of picks the way the Colts did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, sparky151 said: They had $110 million in cap space. They replaced Isiah Crowell with Carlos Hyde. Big deal. Chris Smith was a backup with us and will be a backup with them. If they'd hired a coach to give them a fresh start and signed a top QB and CB, they be much better off. They could have traded for Michael Bennett or Aquib Talib or Marcus Peters. Tyrod Taylor isn't very good. If Mayfield stays on the bench, then they aren't getting much from the top pick. Imagine what they could have done if Haslam had fired Hue, apologized to the city for 0-16, dropped ticket and concession prices to get back to sellouts, brought in a good coach who talked Joe Thomas into returning, made some better trades, signed Cousins for $30 mil per year and used the top pick on Barkley or traded it for a boatload of picks the way the Colts did. Who said Cousins would even consider signing with Cleveland. Considering his free agency mantra all offseason was to sign with a contender. And finding a coach to convince Joe Thomas to stay? Blissfull thinking at it’s finest. Tyrod Taylor is a better option than Keenum. This isn’t a team looking to win a championship this year. They’re investing into the future of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 19 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: Who said Cousins would even consider signing with Cleveland. Considering his free agency mantra all offseason was to sign with a contender. And finding a coach to convince Joe Thomas to stay? Blissfull thinking at it’s finest. Tyrod Taylor is a better option than Keenum. This isn’t a team looking to win a championship this year. They’re investing into the future of the franchise. Tyrod Taylor is in no way shape or form the future of the Browns. Maybe Mayfield is or maybe he'll be yet another flop to add to the jersey. Cousins had no reason to sign with the Browns because they don't have any hope of being a good team with Hue as coach. They had a middle of the pack defense last year which is an achievement for an 0-16 team. Upgrading the CBs would go a long ways toward making their defense top 5. That's why they took Ward with the 4th overall pick but they could have just traded for either Talib or Peters. They had better picks to offer than the former teams got for those players. They could have signed Johnson or Butler in free agency. They'd have had to pay more but they had the money to do so. Same thing with Cousins or Keenum. Browns started rookie QBs the last couple of years who turned the ball over a lot and cost them games. Put a veteran QB in there and they'd be better. Add some explosive offensive playmakers and they could be good. Joe Thomas played every snap of his career until he tore a muscle last year. The recovery time on that was a few months. He could have played this year but chose not to because he has lots of money saved and the team doesn't have much hope of improvement. with an owner who brings back a 1-31 coach. Saying they are investing in the future is one way to put it. Another is that they don't know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 5:11 PM, sparky151 said: Why does anyone think the Browns are going to win 7 or more games? They pretty much threw in the towel on the 2018 season when they kept Hue after records of 1-15 and 0-16. Then they blew the offseason by not doing much in free agency and had to use top 4 picks on a QB and CB. Imagine if they had hired Canton's Josh McDaniels, and signed Cousins or Keenum plus Malcolm Butler or Trumaine Johnson. They could have used the picks on Barkley and Chubb. Never change Jimmy Haslam. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 6:11 PM, sparky151 said: Why does anyone think the Browns are going to win 7 or more games? They pretty much threw in the towel on the 2018 season when they kept Hue after records of 1-15 and 0-16. Then they blew the offseason by not doing much in free agency and had to use top 4 picks on a QB and CB. Imagine if they had hired Canton's Josh McDaniels, and signed Cousins or Keenum plus Malcolm Butler or Trumaine Johnson. They could have used the picks on Barkley and Chubb. Never change Jimmy Haslam. What? LOL the Browns are not going to be a friggin playoff team or anything, but they had an excellent off-season aside from keeping that bum Hue Jackson. I, as did many others, thought Baker Mayfield was a franchise QB. I thought there were 4 of them in the draft. While I probably would have taken Darnold over Baker, it was splitting hairs. Denzel Ward was my 4th rated prospect overall at a major position of need. And CB is a premier position. Not sure how picking two guys where we don't have needs (RB, DE) would have made us better than taking two positions of need that matched value. BTW, I think Chubb is going to be extremely pedestrian in the NFL. And how would throwing a bunch of money at overrated older players have helped us? Cousins is the only guy you listed as a possible FA that would have been a great addition and he wasn't ever going to come here. And with the contract he got I can't even call what the Vikings did a great move. I don't think Cousins is anything more than an average starting QB in the NFL. The Browns are certainly not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but they're infinitely better than they were last year. You'd be on an island by yourself to claim they "didn't do much this off-season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 5/18/2018 at 9:18 AM, sparky151 said: Maybe Mayfield is or maybe he'll be yet another flop to add to the jersey. True. So we probably shouldn't have drafted anyone, because what if they aren't good? Your take was bad. It wasn't quite 1-31 bad, but it's still bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Browns severely underachieved this past offseason. They had over $100 mil in cap space and 2 top 4 picks. But keeping Hue meant they have no credibility with free agents who want to win rather than cash checks. So free agency was a bust. They couldn't talk Joe Thomas into another season because he knew it would be more losing with Hue. They made a couple of trades. Basically they swapped Kizer for Taylor. Big deal. If they'd hired a legit head coach and a solid veteran QB, they'd be miles ahead of where they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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