The_Slamman Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 hours ago, HDsportsfan said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezekiel-elliott-testifies-under-oath-that-he-liked-to-do-drugs-at-ohio-state/ https://sports.yahoo.com/ezekiel-elliott-case-isnt-first-time-nfls-lisa-friel-accused-withholding-evidence-232701902.html https://twitter.com/DCBlueStar/status/904231854949195776 Can this get any more bizarre. So whose this doctor and what is her role and for who? She's a doctor hired by the NFL. She didn't want to be cross examined by Kessler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 @Gmen, so this is fun... the 2 medical doctors the NFL relies upon to prove the domestic violence have now been obliterated. The first blantantly lied about not being able to attend the hearing. The second one has now recanted her testimony... https://www.google.com/amp/amp.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article171203267.html she now says that's it's not possible to date a bruise from a photograph. Oops. And numerous witnesses have said that after being with Zeke she had absolutely no bruising when she stripped down to bra and panties. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-nfl-botched-the-ezekiel-elliott-probe-but-wont-admit-it/amp/ The witness notes under penalty of perjury Ms. Thompson had no "bruises, scratches or scrapes" at any point that week, going so far as to note she wore a tank top, exposing most of her upper body -- yet, she was without sign of physical harm until the evening of July 22. And... It was also that evening, as documented, wherein Ms. Thompson was in the aforementioned bar brawl -- drawing a very short and logical line from the bruises to the originating source. And, Ezekiel was so "abusive" that she begged him to get back together with her to the point he filed a restraining order against her. So, Zeke dumps her. He won't take her calls. He takes out restraining order against her she she can't continue harassing him. So she does want any victim of DV would do... she promptly sleeps with him teammate and sends him texts about it from an untraceable phone. so, just curious... when can we expect your apology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 4 hours ago, The_Slamman said: @Gmen, so this is fun... the 2 medical doctors the NFL relies upon to prove the domestic violence have now been obliterated. The first blantantly lied about not being able to attend the hearing. The second one has now recanted her testimony... https://www.google.com/amp/amp.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article171203267.html she now says that's it's not possible to date a bruise from a photograph. Oops. And numerous witnesses have said that after being with Zeke she had absolutely no bruising when she stripped down to bra and panties. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-nfl-botched-the-ezekiel-elliott-probe-but-wont-admit-it/amp/ The witness notes under penalty of perjury Ms. Thompson had no "bruises, scratches or scrapes" at any point that week, going so far as to note she wore a tank top, exposing most of her upper body -- yet, she was without sign of physical harm until the evening of July 22. And... It was also that evening, as documented, wherein Ms. Thompson was in the aforementioned bar brawl -- drawing a very short and logical line from the bruises to the originating source. And, Ezekiel was so "abusive" that she begged him to get back together with her to the point he filed a restraining order against her. So, Zeke dumps her. He won't take her calls. He takes out restraining order against her she she can't continue harassing him. So she does want any victim of DV would do... she promptly sleeps with him teammate and sends him texts about it from an untraceable phone. so, just curious... when can we expect your apology? I really can't stand hearing how anyone can make such a false accusation about something so serious as domestic violence abuse and NOT be held accountable. This goes for Goodell also. To suspend a player and tarnish his image (further) on something with marginal or no credibility at all should be grounds for a serious lawsuit IMO. This really seems more like a power play from Goodell than anything else. I said it with Tom Brady as well. And I hate Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Gently Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Also worth noting that Lisa Friel has stated that the only information Roberts did not have ("she didn't have all the facts") was the June 26th interview with Elliott. She has also stated that she found Elliott's testimony to be not credible because he did not characterize himself as "dating" Ms. Thompson because he was, in fact, seeing four women at the time. That was it. The NFL's entire case was "Elliott is lying because he said they weren't dating and our two expert witnesses determined that the bruises were caused when the accuser said they were caused." Now that the two expert witnesses have been, as Slam put it, obliterated, the entire reason for the NFL overriding Roberts' recommendation is, quite literally, Lisa Friel not agreeing with Elliott's definition of "dating". Which, BTW there's an amusing exchange if you read the links. Friel says that she believes there are no possible reasonable disagreements over the term "dating." Kessler says "you think your definition governs the way everyone would define a relationship...?" Friel answers, "I didn't say anything like that." Uh. yeah, lady. You said exactly that. There's a similar moment with the Dr who did testify, where she says "this injury is most likely caused..." and Kessler asks why should would say it was "most likely" X and she cuts him off "I never said 'most likely'." I am finding the NFLs "experts" almost as incredible as the accuser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Big surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 The NFL continues to make itself look beyond ridiculous. It's damn near obvious that Zeke is innocent in this case. Maybe a ****** bag, maybe not the best guy to date, but not an abuser or anything against the law or worthy of suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Going back to square one, what incentive does the NFL have to suspend a "clearly innocent" star player? I heard a lot of John Mara *shakes fist angrily* bandied about, but no real logical explanation. It's interesting that some of you acknowledge he's a bad person, yet you're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the one accusation that takes him off the field for 6 games. Drug user. Check. Punches a man out cold in a bar. Check. Exposes a woman in public. Check. 100 mph speeding ticket. Check. Beats his girlfriend. Whoaaa. Wait a minute now. This one is simply unbelievable... despite photo evidence... and a year long investigation. Why do you think the NFL is out to get Americas team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Gently Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Gmen said: Beats his girlfriend. Whoaaa. Wait a minute now. This one is simply unbelievable... despite photo evidence... and a year long investigation. Why do you think the NFL is out to get Americas team? That would be the photo evidence that has been thoroughly discredited as anything resembling evidence, right? with one expert witness literally malingering to avoid testimony and the other saying repeatedly, for each photograph, that the injuries are not inconsistent with other, legal, activities that Thompson herself reported occured, and, in general that she had no reason or information to discount the three separate studies *and* direct expert testimony that her analysis of the photographs was inherently unreliable because photographic analysis of bruises is inherently unreliable... something which she, herself, began her *own* analysis with. THAT photographic evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I admittedly don't have the expertise to dive into the details of the NFLs report. I'm not a lawyer or a detective. I'm just having a tough time coming up with a motive to this alleged witch hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Gently Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 34 minutes ago, Gmen said: I admittedly don't have the expertise to dive into the details of the NFLs report. I'm not a lawyer or a detective. I'm just having a tough time coming up with a motive to this alleged witch hunt. Well then I would suggest actually looking at the information proffered by people before accusing them of wholesale hypocrisy. Or, indeed, looking at any information at all. https://twitter.com/DCBlueStar/status/904231854949195776 this link is an abridged version of many key elements of the hearing. Read it and get back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Gmen said: Going back to square one, what incentive does the NFL have to suspend a "clearly innocent" star player? I heard a lot of John Mara *shakes fist angrily* bandied about, but no real logical explanation. It's interesting that some of you acknowledge he's a bad person, yet you're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the one accusation that takes him off the field for 6 games. Drug user. Check. Punches a man out cold in a bar. Check. Exposes a woman in public. Check. 100 mph speeding ticket. Check. Beats his girlfriend. Whoaaa. Wait a minute now. This one is simply unbelievable... despite photo evidence... and a year long investigation. Why do you think the NFL is out to get Americas team? First of all - Speeding, doing drugs and getting into a fight are things that most every male on earth has done by the age 21. So whats your point? Are all humans bad people? He's a dbag for convincing another person to get an abortion against their wishes. Not illegal, but low character. Also a sign of immaturity (along with the above). As for the abuse part, the issue isnt that his character is so flawless that we can fathom he would do it. The issue is that literally all of the evidence shows that he didnt. Its not that hard to grasp. Even if he is a crappy person, he should not be punished for crimes he did not commit. And its very clear that this is pure hate/revenge from a stupid broad. The Police said it. The NFL lead investigator said it. Zeke said it. Hell THE VICTIM HERSELF ADMITTED SHE WAS DOING IT TO RUIN HIS CAREER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Interesting....now there is no time deadline for Henderson's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 34 minutes ago, HDsportsfan said: Interesting....now there is no time deadline for Henderson's decision. What? Last I heard both parties have been informed a decision comes at the end of business today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, Texas_OutLaw7 said: What? Last I heard both parties have been informed a decision comes at the end of business today. NFL just can't there ish together. Looks like there scrambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Then there's this. So who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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