GamedayGuru Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 This dude saying he was in the heisman conversation, lol thats great, do u have any idea how many heisman winners are garbage in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breesus mode Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 11 hours ago, TENINCH said: If he's this great rusher why wasn't he featured more in college and during his rookie season? Because Butch Jones is an idiot, and Mark Ingram is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Le'Veon Bell Leonard Fournette Todd Gurley LeSean McCoy Alvin Kamara Ezekiel Elliott Derrick Henry David Johnson Melvin Gordon Dion Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Le'Veon Bell Leonard Fournette Todd Gurley LeSean McCoy Alvin Kamara Ezekiel Elliott Derrick Henry David Johnson Melvin Gordon Dion Lewis non-top ten Top 10: Kareem Hunt Jordan Howard Devonta Freeman Mark Ingram Joe Mixon Alex Collins Carlos Hyde Corey Clement Kenyan Drake Christian McCaffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 17 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Le'Veon Bell Leonard Fournette Todd Gurley LeSean McCoy Alvin Kamara Ezekiel Elliott Derrick Henry David Johnson Melvin Gordon Dion Lewis One of these things is not like the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: One of these things is not like the others. Correct, Lewis is the niftiest runner there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Correct, Lewis is the niftiest runner there. He also has no argument to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: He also has no argument to be there. Cause he is smaller and missed time with an ACL injury, maybe it looks that way. Skill-wise, Lewis is a legitimate top thirteen overall running back. The only thing preventing Lewis’ from producing this year like the top ten back he is capable of being is having to share carries with Derrick Henry, (plus Conklin is out and Lewan is holding out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 14 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Cause he is smaller and missed time with an ACL injury, maybe it looks that way. Skill-wise, Lewis is a legitimate top thirteen overall running back. The only thing preventing Lewis’ from producing this year like the top ten back he is capable of being is having to share carries with Derrick Henry, (plus Conklin is out and Lewan is holding out). No, I disagree. In fact his skill set really isn't all that rare; we've seen many forms of his over the years (ie. Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Giovani Bernard, Duke Johnson etc.). He's an undersized, shifty runner who lacks long speed, has some surprising pop behind his pads and is a real threat in the passing game. Which is all fine and dandy as he's a great piece to any football team. He had a second half to the year and made the most of his opportunities in a system that makes the most of his ability. But to put him into the top 10 is too much considering his talent really isn't all that special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 2:48 PM, SmittyBacall said: One of these things is not like the others. I would say two of those is not like the others, I don't think Derrick Henry belongs in the top 10 either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/22/2018 at 10:48 AM, SmittyBacall said: No, I disagree. In fact his skill set really isn't all that rare; we've seen many forms of his over the years (ie. Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Giovani Bernard, Duke Johnson etc.). He's an undersized, shifty runner who lacks long speed, has some surprising pop behind his pads and is a real threat in the passing game. Which is all fine and dandy as he's a great piece to any football team. He had a second half to the year and made the most of his opportunities in a system that makes the most of his ability. But to put him into the top 10 is too much considering his talent really isn't all that special. Don’t think Lewis is a top 10 RB, but you’re underselling him here. He’s not simply a nifty scatback like most of those guys you mentioned. He runs through contact more often than you’d think for a guy his size. He was a big inside runner last year. EDIT: Also, Henry, Lewis, and Gordon have no business being over Freeman, Howard, or Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 4:23 PM, DoleINGout said: Correct, Lewis is the niftiest runner there. If Dion Lewis is top 10 then so is Chris Thompson. And no, Dion Lewis is not top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzd07 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 In what world is Derrick Henry better than Kareem Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 5:07 PM, Yin-Yang said: Don’t think Lewis is a top 10 RB, but you’re underselling him here. He’s not simply a nifty scatback like most of those guys you mentioned. He runs through contact more often than you’d think for a guy his size. He was a big inside runner last year. EDIT: Also, Henry, Lewis, and Gordon have no business being over Freeman, Howard, or Hunt. You can see Bernard, Sproles, and D. Johnson do this too. Although I'll admit he does finish runs well. The league seems to agree with me. If Lewis was a top 10 RB he wouldn't of only received $5 million annually on the open market with plenty of suitors vying for is services. Hell even Jerrick McKinnon got $7.5 million annually. He's a very valuable piece, he's not special nor a top 10 RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: You can see Bernard, Sproles, and D. Johnson do this too. Although I'll admit he does finish runs well. The league seems to agree with me. If Lewis was a top 10 RB he wouldn't of only received $5 million annually on the open market with plenty of suitors vying for is services. Hell even Jerrick McKinnon got $7.5 million annually. He's a very valuable piece, he's not special nor a top 10 RB. Well, again, I’m not claiming he’s a top 10 runner. So, you’re preaching to the choir there. Lewis is much better than those guys at fighting through and past contact - he blows away them at YAC and DYAR. He’s a better runner than you’re giving him credit for. EDIT: And his contract has as much to do with his health (very injury prone) and his opportunities (he’s never had the touches or attempts until this past season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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