Scout Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Who are the best 10 edge defenders in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Basically all the guys in the AFC West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Edge meaning dominant run defenders as well as pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamedayGuru Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1. Von Miller 2. Khalil mack 3. Cam jordan 4. Brandon graham 5. Joey Bosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 5:12 AM, GamedayGuru said: 1. Von Miller 2. Khalil mack 3. Cam jordan 4. Brandon graham 5. Joey Bosa To round it out, Clowney, Chandler Jones, Melvin Ingram, Ingram, Justin Houston HM: Kerrigan, Griffen, Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 13 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: To round it out, Clowney, Chandler Jones, Melvin Ingram, Ingram, Justin Houston HM: Kerrigan, Griffen, Lawrence Clowney doesn't get enough love. He had a great 2017 season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 hours ago, TheVillain112 said: Clowney doesn't get enough love. He had a great 2017 season... There's still an injury stigma to him that has everyone hesitant to rank him. I also think people put too much of a premium on sack numbers - the fact he has yet to have a 10.0 sack season impacts his ranking (nevermind he's led the league in TFLs the last two seasons). I'm admittedly in this group that underrated him, but I think he's got the biggest upside of all these names, as a guy going into year 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 16 hours ago, EliteTexan80 said: There's still an injury stigma to him that has everyone hesitant to rank him. I also think people put too much of a premium on sack numbers - the fact he has yet to have a 10.0 sack season impacts his ranking (nevermind he's led the league in TFLs the last two seasons). I'm admittedly in this group that underrated him, but I think he's got the biggest upside of all these names, as a guy going into year 5. I think he's very good, but there is something to be said for consistency as well, which is why I have him lumped in that very good 2nd tier of edge rushers that isn't quite elite, but is definitely pro-bowl caliber. He's getting there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I think he's very good, but there is something to be said for consistency as well, which is why I have him lumped in that very good 2nd tier of edge rushers that isn't quite elite, but is definitely pro-bowl caliber. He's getting there though. I guess my only counter is how you're defining consistency. As a pass rusher, he's very inconsistent. As a run defender, he doesn't set the edge, he bashes it with a sledgehammer and destroys the edge any time he's asked to. There's not a run blocking O Lineman who can stop him, point blank. If he could ever get consistent on his pass rush, he could be a JJ Watt-circa-2012-type defender; I don't know if he's capable of getting there, but the tools and flashes show that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Lists need more D-Law. Miller - Mack - Jordan - Bosa - Graham - Ingram - Lawrence - Clowney - Jones - Kerrigan - Griffen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 15 hours ago, EliteTexan80 said: I guess my only counter is how you're defining consistency. As a pass rusher, he's very inconsistent. As a run defender, he doesn't set the edge, he bashes it with a sledgehammer and destroys the edge any time he's asked to. There's not a run blocking O Lineman who can stop him, point blank. If he could ever get consistent on his pass rush, he could be a JJ Watt-circa-2012-type defender; I don't know if he's capable of getting there, but the tools and flashes show that I define consistency as high levels of play for multiple years. I think a few more years at his current level and he'll be top 5 for sure. The pass rushing will get him there faster too, but there's room for growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 4 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I define consistency as high levels of play for multiple years. I think a few more years at his current level and he'll be top 5 for sure. The pass rushing will get him there faster too, but there's room for growth. Yet Joey Bosa can make the list after his sophomore season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/8/2018 at 7:26 AM, SmittyBacall said: Yet Joey Bosa can make the list after his sophomore season? I didn't make the initial list, but Bosa has shown that he's a complete player over the two seasons he's played in. Clowney has more upside but I'm comfortable with the other poster putting Bosa top 5. Bosa has also put up more sacks in 2 years than Clowney in 4. Not saying that's an end all be all, but I'm sure the pressure numbers corroborate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 4 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I didn't make the initial list, but Bosa has shown that he's a complete player over the two seasons he's played in. Clowney has more upside but I'm comfortable with the other poster putting Bosa top 5. Bosa has also put up more sacks in 2 years than Clowney in 4. Not saying that's an end all be all, but I'm sure the pressure numbers corroborate that. Clearly a better pass rusher, and all-round player. I'd take Clowney for blowing up runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 On 6/8/2018 at 10:26 AM, SmittyBacall said: Yet Joey Bosa can make the list after his sophomore season? Probably a big difference since A) we haven’t seen Bosa be anything but an elite player, unlike Clowney, and B) Bosa is a more consistent overall player (pass rushing and run defending) within a season’s timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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