Broncofan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Not surprising, but this rarely ends well for the player. The team owns all the cards here - Thomas' only real play is that he can hold out for 8 games or less, then collect only half of his season's salary, and still have the season count as his final one with SEA service-time wise (what HOU T Duane Brown did last year). Thomas will also lose $ for missing mandatory OTA's and practice, unlike guys who are refusing to report after getting signed to a franchise tag by the team. That could have cost Brown up to 1.5M last year (no idea if HOU enforced that or not). Brown gambled that bad T play would force HOU to act sooner, and that's the thinking Thomas has here. It's just the only leverage players have, so it works better on legit playoff contenders, or a team that desperately wants to keep the player. I don't know if that applies here, though. Now if this is a way to engineer a trade a year early because Thomas doesn't think SEA can contend, I guess it could work. It's hard to see an extension coming unless SEA really badly wants to keep him back - any extension into the 30's is always iffy at the top of market rates. Seems more likely a trade is coming, or Thomas backs down and reports later on. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 RIP Seattle Russell Wilson & Friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Danger said: RIP Seattle Russell Wilson & Friends I thought we said that after they didnt draft an OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Earl is a fine safety, but he has no leverage here. Safety market is trash and he still has a year left with Seattle not having a lot of wiggle room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Such a bizarre move when the safety market has been so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Thomas said he was going to do this very thing months ago. Everyone knew this would happen. Hopefully the two can get a new deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Forge said: Such a bizarre move when the safety market has been so bad I think that’s part of the motivation. An extension with a new team pre-trade or with SEA might actually beat what he gets on the open market next year. He’s still an elite S but he’s also going to 30 in 2019. Problem is he has such little leverage. IMO he would have been better off privately giving SEA a deadline to get an extension done or he hits the FA market next year. That wouldn’t destroy his trade value like this move did. Bad advice from his agent (unless he ignored it lol either way bad decision). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Could a player just show up to everything (so they don't get fined, etc), but just give 10% effort and walk through everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: Could a player just show up to everything (so they don't get fined, etc), but just give 10% effort and walk through everything? Don't think so. Either you completely sit out or you go all the way. I don't think teammates or people within the organization would respect a guy having a half-arse approach out there. Also, there's the media attention. If Thomas shows up to camp, then there's no story and people perceive things to be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: Could a player just show up to everything (so they don't get fined, etc), but just give 10% effort and walk through everything? I would cite Randy “Alligators Arms” Moss during his staybin Oakland. You could do it, but it destroys your value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Boltstrikes said: I would cite Randy “Alligators Arms” Moss during his staybin Oakland. You could do it, but it destroys your value. But not your HoF chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Heimdallr said: Could a player just show up to everything (so they don't get fined, etc), but just give 10% effort and walk through everything? Seahawks have been shopping Thomas for awhile now, so they know what he's worth on the open market and who is most interested. Earl is basically throwing down the gauntlet in telling the fan base: I want to be here. I want to retire here. That means if it doesn't work out, its on the front office. He's just clarifying his position through the media. And then the front office will clarify theirs. I am guessing he gets traded in the next two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Seahawks have been shopping Thomas for awhile now, so they know what he's worth on the open market and who is most interested. Earl is basically throwing down the gauntlet in telling the fan base: I want to be here. I want to retire here. Well then I'd guess he'd give the team a discount and we wouldnb't be here. My guess is he hopes to get a deal done as a 29 year old safety instead of a deal as a 30 year old safety which just decreases his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I have no clue how this could end well.....pretty much we know that Seattle is over. But who is paying for safeties these days?? Like is the goal really just to go to the Cowboys?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Shanedorf said: Seahawks have been shopping Thomas for awhile now, so they know what he's worth on the open market and who is most interested. Earl is basically throwing down the gauntlet in telling the fan base: I want to be here. I want to retire here. That means if it doesn't work out, its on the front office. He's just clarifying his position through the media. And then the front office will clarify theirs. I am guessing he gets traded in the next two weeks Lynch was talking about showing up to talk to the media though, that's a little different than giving 10% as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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