JaguarCrazy2832 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Does Seattle have much of a leg to stand on? Their defense just got blown up and now their best defensive player is holding out as he seems like he is the only man left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 6 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: But not your HoF chances. Only @RuskieTitan is qualified to make that assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks98 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Does Seattle have much of a leg to stand on? Their defense just got blown up and now their best defensive player is holding out as he seems like he is the only man left Sure let him hold out till he starts missing game checks that's when the player usually caves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I'm not sure how many chips Thomas is holding here. He's a 29 year old in a declining safety market, on a team that is rebuilding, who has actively been shopping him, and has been on record multiple times "contemplating" retirement. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Not what the Seahawks wanted to see. Be interesting to see what happens with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Interesting, wasn’t he critical of Kam when he held out? I seem to remember a “he’s asking care of his business instead of helping us.” Type of comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 14 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Does Seattle have much of a leg to stand on? Their defense just got blown up and now their best defensive player is holding out as he seems like he is the only man left Bobby Wagner has been at all team activities as far as I recall. Earl Thomas is a good player, but he's not close to being their best player and losing him isn't going to hurt them as much as people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Only way he gets out of SEA is if they accept a late pick to get rid of him. He is a FA who is owed $10 mil for this year and is almost 30 at a position of little market value. I am not sure anyone would offer more than a 5th, unless some contender really just had a massive hole at safety happen soon (like if McCourty would go down). They might get a 4th but even then I am skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarcerated_Scarface Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 He's making $8.5M this season, isn't that like twice as much as most safeties are getting paid??? I think he will regret this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, steadypimpin said: He's making $8.5M this season, isn't that like twice as much as most safeties are getting paid??? I think he will regret this. Not even close. At $8.5M value, he's behind the following names: Lamarcus Joyner ($11.287M) Minkah Fitzpatrick ($10.52M) Reshad Jones ($9.735M) Eric Berry ($9M) Malcolm Jenkins ($8.6M) Jimmie Ward ($8.526M) I don't see anywhere, when comparing his contract to other Safeties, where he's even in the top 3 of any earning category. Total cap hit he's #4, total guaranteed he's #9, average guaranteed per year he's #12, average per year he's #6. https://overthecap.com/position/safety/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegybomb Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Did you just count Minkah's signing bonus as his salary? He has a cap hit of 3 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 22 hours ago, Darth Pees said: Not even close. At $8.5M value, he's behind the following names: Lamarcus Joyner ($11.287M) Minkah Fitzpatrick ($10.52M) Reshad Jones ($9.735M) Eric Berry ($9M) Malcolm Jenkins ($8.6M) Jimmie Ward ($8.526M) I don't see anywhere, when comparing his contract to other Safeties, where he's even in the top 3 of any earning category. Total cap hit he's #4, total guaranteed he's #9, average guaranteed per year he's #12, average per year he's #6. https://overthecap.com/position/safety/ That salary for Minkah is including his signing bonus. Also, Jimmie Ward is on the fifth year option, and I believe he's on it as a cornerback, not a safety, which explains why it is higher (he's once against been moved back to cornerback as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Jaegybomb said: Did you just count Minkah's signing bonus as his salary? He has a cap hit of 3 mil. I was just going down the table of data they were presenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 12:51 PM, Darth Pees said: On 6/11/2018 at 12:45 PM, steadypimpin said: He's making $8.5M this season, isn't that like twice as much as most safeties are getting paid??? I think he will regret this. Not even close. At $8.5M value, he's behind the following names: Lamarcus Joyner ($11.287M) Minkah Fitzpatrick ($10.52M) Reshad Jones ($9.735M) Eric Berry ($9M) Malcolm Jenkins ($8.6M) Jimmie Ward ($8.526M) I don't see anywhere, when comparing his contract to other Safeties, where he's even in the top 3 of any earning category. Total cap hit he's #4, total guaranteed he's #9, average guaranteed per year he's #12, average per year he's #6. https://overthecap.com/position/safety/ Technically he is correct. Thomas averages 10 million per year on his contract which is 6th and out of the 230 or so safeties under contract and he is making more than twice as much as over 200 of them so he is making more than twice as much as most safeties. Thomas is technically making 10.4 million this season, 1.9 is prorated and he already cashed that check but that is his cap number and counts on his average yearly salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooters22 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 12:48 PM, Heimdallr said: Could a player just show up to everything (so they don't get fined, etc), but just give 10% effort and walk through everything? Sure but who the heck would sign a turd like that the following season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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