Texansfan713 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, bkobow05 said: lol as if top 100 rankings really friggin' matter. It's a deep *** system. deep are the braves, padres, and white sox. Heck im not even sure its deeper than the Astros farm system tbh. (and no im not ranking the astros system top 5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Is Robles enough to pry deGron or Thor from the Mets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 No, Robles + another top-5 guy + a lottery ticket. Minimum. And even then you're getting a steal. The two of them are cheap and each still with multiple years of team control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 6:33 PM, GSUeagles14 said: if you dont have top end talent it absolutely does matter. the brewers system is average. they have 1-2 guys that could headline a deal, regardless of how "deep" it is. Milwaukee's system is absolutely perfect for teams dealing rentals. Lots of lottery tickets in the lower levels and guys in the higher levels that look like role players. A Hiura/Burnes package is a really good start to a blockbuster deal, as they are the two that have some impact potential and aren't years away from the bigs. I could certainly see a team falling in love with 2 other prospects in that system and making a deal. Honestly, if I was a team with a rental, I'd target the Brewers. They've had guys that looked like role players that they traded before, who ended up blowing up in Segura, Haniger, Brantley, Cain, Gennett, etc. Really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 hours ago, hrubes20 said: Milwaukee's system is absolutely perfect for teams dealing rentals. Lots of lottery tickets in the lower levels and guys in the higher levels that look like role players. A Hiura/Burnes package is a really good start to a blockbuster deal, as they are the two that have some impact potential and aren't years away from the bigs. I could certainly see a team falling in love with 2 other prospects in that system and making a deal. Honestly, if I was a team with a rental, I'd target the Brewers. They've had guys that looked like role players that they traded before, who ended up blowing up in Segura, Haniger, Brantley, Cain, Gennett, etc. Really weird. Maybe... for that one specific scenario and thats more ancedotal than something you can really rely on. But that doesnt make it a top 10 system or 12 or maybe even 15. They lack high end talent, baseball is weird and guys can come out of no where but that doesnt make up for the lack of premier guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy1609 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I heard on the roto wire podcast the other day they said the nats were considering trading Harper.... what would a package for him costs? more or less then Machado??? that of course is if Washington is serious about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 13 hours ago, hrubes20 said: Milwaukee's system is absolutely perfect for teams dealing rentals. Lots of lottery tickets in the lower levels and guys in the higher levels that look like role players. A Hiura/Burnes package is a really good start to a blockbuster deal, as they are the two that have some impact potential and aren't years away from the bigs. I could certainly see a team falling in love with 2 other prospects in that system and making a deal. Honestly, if I was a team with a rental, I'd target the Brewers. They've had guys that looked like role players that they traded before, who ended up blowing up in Segura, Haniger, Brantley, Cain, Gennett, etc. Really weird. Burnes got promoted to the active roster and was moved to the bullpen, so I think he'd be off limits. I can't remember any deadline deals where a prospect who was on the active roster was traded away from a contending team. I don't know if we'd trade Hiura, he might be the best 2B in the organization right now so in that case we may as well just promote him. If we did trade him, I'd imagine it'd be for a DeGrom type. But I agree, we're exactly the team that can get worked over. Brandon Woodruff is in prospect limbo right now, but he is a headliner who could get starts from a bad team and get flipped for a bunch more with a pretty minimal track record. Then because you didn't get Hiura, you can demand some combination of Tristen Lutz, Jean Carmona, Carlos Rodriguez, Mario Feliciano, Mauricio Dubon (who's hurt so that's another discount), and a bullpen lottery ticket on top of it. That's a bunch of really high upside guys who are a year away from breaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Who says no? Reds get: RHP Noah Syndergaard Mets get: 3B/2B Nick Senzel, C Tyler Stephenson, SS Jeter Downs, RHP Keury Mella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, THE DUKE said: Who says no? Reds get: RHP Noah Syndergaard Mets get: 3B/2B Nick Senzel, C Tyler Stephenson, SS Jeter Downs, RHP Keury Mella Both teams. Mets aren't going to base the central return for Thor around a guy with a serious ankle injury. Reds aren't going to sell Senzel low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Both teams. Mets aren't going to base the central return for Thor around a guy with a serious ankle injury. Reds aren't going to sell Senzel low. Who has an ankle injury? Senzel had a finger ligament issue (which ended up not needing surgery, but he's likely done until the AFL), the rest of the guys are healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: Who has an ankle injury? Senzel had a finger ligament issue (which ended up not needing surgery, but he's likely done until the AFL), the rest of the guys are healthy. Damnit that's right. I have him confused with somebody else or I'm just getting old. The rationale still holds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Just now, ramssuperbowl99 said: Damnit that's right. I have him confused with somebody else or I'm just getting old. The rationale still holds though. For the Reds I wouldn't consider it selling low if it brought Thor in return. For the Mets, I could see that as a reason they say no. I don't think I'd offer anything more though given Sydergaard's injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crab1106 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 If NYY moves Andujar for a pitcher that's worth that type of player then turns around and move Sheffield for Machado I'd be on cloud nine. Flags fly forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Not really a proposal, but some trade news. Don't think we have any other twitter/non-footballs future speculation: Escobar should get a decent return, but I hope the Twins don't trade him. Dozier, should get something back for him, but don't know what. I hope we move Dozier though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, The Gnat said: Not really a proposal, but some trade news. Don't think we have any other twitter/non-footballs future speculation: Escobar should get a decent return, but I hope the Twins don't trade him. Dozier, should get something back for him, but don't know what. I hope we move Dozier though. Orioles leak who they want for Machado early in the week. Dodgers and Brewers each leak all of the other IF targets they want. Passive-aggressive media usage at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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