BrownLeader Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: Jonathan Taylor could be a nice change of pace guy for that offense but honestly I think they would go with Etienne or Swift over Taylor because of the speed and big play ability and potentially fitting that offense better. Taylor fits is but does not have the make you miss in a small space those guys have. Edited January 15, 2020 by BrownLeader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, BrownLeader said: You honestly think Jonathan Taylor is as quick laterally as Swift and Etienne? Swift could run circles in a small space around Taylor. Taylor is no Barry Sanders last time I checked, Swift can make you drop on the ground with his quickness. Taylor does not have that and is far more straight line. He could fit though because who has not fit in that run system, Damien Williams has been successful, and old LeSean McCoy, Darrel Williams even has had some success not to mention Darwin Thompson and Spencer Ware had a time of production as well and Knile Davis also. So if those guys could fit in the system Taylor could if they really wanted a RB and could be a decent value late 1st round but there is tons of options in the 2nd and 3rd round as well. I could see them taking Swift late 1st round this year and that could be a massive win for them and just another weapon to add to the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Ozzy said: I agree I think the Chiefs get a RB no doubt. Harris like someone has said is returning to school I believe unless he changes his mind last minute. But if Dobbins drops he would be the ideal but not very likely. Jonathan Taylor could be a nice change of pace guy for that offense but honestly I think they would go with Etienne or Swift over Taylor because of the speed and big play ability and potentially fitting that offense better. Taylor fits is but does not have the make you miss in a small space those guys have. I doubt they draft a AJ Dillon type but maybe and he is an option. Could see a variety of backs going there and doing well, like Zach Moss, Eno Benjamin, Michael Warren II, KeShawn Vaughn and Patrick Taylor all could do quite well and would be more mid round guys. Or I could see them getting a Malcolm Perry type and using him creatively and ripping up the NFL with his speed and run after the catch ability. The offense is tricky for a RB. Run a lot of shotgun and the OL is weak in run blocking. RB needs to be able to take first contact behind the LOS and keep going. Why Kareem Hunt found success. Jamal Charles was so fast he could succeed in any system. Reid still believes in pass blocking for snaps. If they can’t pass block they’re doghoused, because you can’t get Mahomes killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrownLeader Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ozzy said: You honestly think Jonathan Taylor is as quick laterally as Swift and Etienne? Swift could run circles in a small space around Taylor. Taylor is no Barry Sanders last time I checked, Swift can make you drop on the ground with his quickness. Taylor does not have that and is far more straight line. He could fit though because who has not fit in that run system, Damien Williams has been successful, and old LeSean McCoy, Darrel Williams even has had some success not to mention Darwin Thompson and Spencer Ware had a time of production as well and Knile Davis also. So if those guys could fit in the system Taylor could if they really wanted a RB and could be a decent value late 1st round but there is tons of options in the 2nd and 3rd round as well. I could see them taking Swift late 1st round this year and that could be a massive win for them and just another weapon to add to the system. Swift is RB#1 to me and yeah, probably laterally quicker than Taylor. But Etienne? I think Taylor's top trait as a runner is his ability to burst through tight spaces. Etienne is more the straight line speed guy rn. He might be the fastest and have the most upside, but he's not as natural a runner as Swift and Taylor. Edited January 16, 2020 by BrownLeader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 He's going to be so good on the right team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Things that you love about JT as a RB don't "measure", like how his ballcarrier vision is as good as any RB prospect I've seen, to go with the patience, instincts, and ability to setup blockers, while having the ability to burst into holes/tight windows. He's also got great strength and yards after contact ability. Between Swift, JT, Dobbins, Etienne, and Edwards-Helaire, this RB and WR class is turning out to be loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: He's going to be so good on the right team. IMO, he's the next Darren Sproles . . . if he will learn to pass block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgers0821 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: He's going to be so good on the right team. Honestly you could say this about almost any prospect. So much of a players NFL success is based on the situation they are drafted into, that is something I feel a lot of people overlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgers0821 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: Things that you love about JT as a RB don't "measure", like how his ballcarrier vision is as good as any RB prospect I've seen, to go with the patience, instincts, and ability to setup blockers, while having the ability to burst into holes/tight windows. He's also got great strength and yards after contact ability. Between Swift, JT, Dobbins, Etienne, and Edwards-Helaire, this RB and WR class is turning out to be loaded. My favorite quote/comment about him that I heard this year from I believe Joel Klatt was that what sets him apart from other backs is his vision/patience “he finds holes where there aren’t any”. Pretty high praise and something that really can’t be taught. Plus he will interview well because he is mad smart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Wow...Etienne going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, .Buzz said: Wow...Etienne going back. Cough stupid cough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Cough stupid cough Same as Najee and Chuba returning. Bad bad decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Same as Najee and Chuba returning. Bad bad decision. This one to me sticks out as an even worse decision just with how many touches and hits he’s already taken having gotten a lot of run since he stepped on to campus. I don’t remember too many, if any, college RBs who started or got significant playing time since their freshman year and stayed until their senior year and didn’t burn out early in the NFL. He’s not the biggest back either although he has added noticeable strength throughout his college career. Edit : Just looked it up, he’s got considerably less carries than most starting RBs throughout his career at Clemson, combined a total of 574 touches or something like that. That’s like two years of Jonathon Taylor usage. But the added year won’t benefit him at all with wear on the tires and another year older when trying to get his second NFL contract. Edited January 17, 2020 by Fureys49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherm Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Same as Najee and Chuba returning. Bad bad decision. Lol not if they enjoy playing college ball. Don't get calling these young men stupid for making a tough decision. I get it messes up u guys draft boards but u will get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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