MSURacerDT55 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I just don't see Hurst being effective in the run game on the next level, sorry. The picture I have in my head is him going against a combo block by Penn and Osemele and getting taken for a long ride. On 10/4/2017 at 2:07 AM, justo said: Hurst is small but I don't see a big difference between his size and Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald, Grady Jarrett, Javon Hargrave, Mike Daniels, etc. If you can play with natural leverage and you're explosive enough to win with your first step, size isn't really a factor. Hurst's lower body does not compare to any of these guys, his college production is good but I just don't see it with "him" though being about to do the same thing at the next level, he isn't that special of an athlete or super strong, neither. And that 6'2 you guys are citing is going to be 6'1 3/4 by the time the combine rolls around. Outside of him, there are going to be some big, good looking Tackles in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Also a small school prospect to look at is Chris Okoye from Ferris State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 4 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: And that 6'2 you guys are citing is going to be 6'1 3/4 by the time the combine rolls around. Is that supposed to be bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, IDOG_det said: Is that supposed to be bad? It definitely won't help. 6'1 280, and not a superior athlete or having superior strength is going to have a hard time in the league. I liken him to Chris Jones who played for the Patriots for a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalhounLambeau Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 4 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Also a small school prospect to look at is Chris Okoye from Ferris State https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13RgfxMu4CW0NKMZebZ88cgg7b7MlszjfzXxEeId7Y34/edit?usp=sharing Added to the database. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: It definitely won't help. 6'1 280, and not a superior athlete or having superior strength is going to have a hard time in the league. I liken him to Chris Jones who played for the Patriots for a few years back. you dont need to be a Superior Athlete or Superior strength to be good in the NFL DL plus theres no Measurements that are official yets o its to be determined how good he is as an athlete. Hurst has a Great Burst off the Snap and has enough strength to function against double teams. i wouldnt be worried by his lack of size. kinda reminds me of Sheldon Day as both are smaller DTs. FWIW the Difference between Sheldon day and Aaron Donalds 10 yard split(its more valuable then a 40 for Interior Dline) is 0.06 Seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: you dont need to be a Superior Athlete or Superior strength to be good in the NFL DL plus theres no Measurements that are official yets o its to be determined how good he is as an athlete. Hurst has a Great Burst off the Snap and has enough strength to function against double teams. i wouldnt be worried by his lack of size. kinda reminds me of Sheldon Day as both are smaller DTs. FWIW the Difference between Sheldon day and Aaron Donalds 10 yard split(its more valuable then a 40 for Interior Dline) is 0.06 Seconds. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justo Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Going from "sorry Maurice Hurst absolutely not" to "check out this kid from Ferris State" is one hell of a heel turn lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 PJ Hall will be a nice project at DT for some team, dude can ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I'll just go on record now as saying that Foley Fatukasi will outplay his draft position. Dude's legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, The LBC said: I'll just go on record now as saying that Foley Fatukasi will outplay his draft position. Dude's legit. Got an invite to the East-West Shrine Game along with Texas DT Poona Ford. Surprising those two might have to settle for Tampa and not go to Mobile. I think Fatukasi is raw and plays high in his pass rush, but he has the raw strength and athleticism to be a contributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Da_Ducktator said: Got an invite to the East-West Shrine Game along with Texas DT Poona Ford. Surprising those two might have to settle for Tampa and not go to Mobile. I think Fatukasi is raw and plays high in his pass rush, but he has the raw strength and athleticism to be a contributor. Clearly there is bit of a disparity in terms of height, but side-by-side tape comparison, I see a lot of Akiem Hicks in Fatukasi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I guess Maurice Hurst is going to be a controversial name on these boards this season. I don't get how people don't see a superior interior defensive line prospect. Elite strength and great burst from the line when it calls for it. And he's down right immovable against double teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justo Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 hours ago, The LBC said: I'll just go on record now as saying that Foley Fatukasi will outplay his draft position. Dude's legit. He's so good. One of few NTs with potential as a game-changer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Rich7sena said: I guess Maurice Hurst is going to be a controversial name on these boards this season. I don't get how people don't see a superior interior defensive line prospect. Elite strength and great burst from the line when it calls for it. And he's down right immovable against double teams. I just don't see it, and I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible. I watched the tOSU game and watched him specifically and he couldn't even dominate Demetrius Knox who is the back up, They specifically lined Hurst and Gary up on our right side which has clearly been our weakest side. I tried to give him a chance but I just don't see this whole dominating thing and I just don't think he has the physical tools to just all of the sudden dominate on the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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