warfelg Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, 3rivers said: At this point , what do you think another team would offer in a trade for draft picks ion somehow the teams and bell came to an agreement? Not enough to be worth it. Tobert would want at lest a 3rd since that's what there's a good chance the compensatory system would give us anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, warfelg said: Not enough to be worth it. Tobert would want at lest a 3rd since that's what there's a good chance the compensatory system would give us anyways. The idea of a 1st or even a 2nd is not going to happen then? I thought this would be the range at one time, but lately I am doubting the RD2 pick. What a waste this has been, and I think if he does return he won't be effective either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 we can't be the only people seeing how out of shape bell is atm and how's acting off the field. Other teams have to be taking notes on this, so I think we would get a 4th at most right now for bell. also think his value goes down by the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzburgh Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I think a team who is one piece away from a Super Bowl this year could offer more than a third for him. I don’t think anyone offer multiple firsts for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, August4th said: we can't be the only people seeing how out of shape bell is atm and how's acting off the field. Other teams have to be taking notes on this, so I think we would get a 4th at most right now for bell. also think his value goes down by the week I thought this too, especially if we aren't down 21-0 i the first and can run a balanced offence , Connor will get the yards and TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Were any current players invited to his "Album" release party the other day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Chieferific said: Were any current players invited to his "Album" release party the other day? Not that I know of. He burned his bridge. Sounds like AB is the only one 'there' for him and that's cuz Bell was 'there' for AB to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 19 hours ago, 3rivers said: The idea of a 1st or even a 2nd is not going to happen then? I thought this would be the range at one time, but lately I am doubting the RD2 pick. What a waste this has been, and I think if he does return he won't be effective either. No. His value right now is 0. It's been 0 since July 16th. As soon as that deadline to extend him passed no team will touch him. Why trade for him when he'll be a FA soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, warfelg said: No. His value right now is 0. It's been 0 since July 16th. As soon as that deadline to extend him passed no team will touch him. Why trade for him when he'll be a FA soon? It really kills me that people don’t understand this yet - specifically actual professionals in the media. You are trading for a locked in tender, not a player who is open to negotiation. If he won’t play for us, a team that he has played with, knows, and has succeeded in...why in the world would he play for someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rivers Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 2018-09-22 at 12:14 PM, Dcash4 said: It really kills me that people don’t understand this yet - specifically actual professionals in the media. You are trading for a locked in tender, not a player who is open to negotiation. If he won’t play for us, a team that he has played with, knows, and has succeeded in...why in the world would he play for someone else? better weather/dome, field, and possibility to actually get the deal he stands for. He has made it clear what he expects, so if a team trades for him, they know what it will cost to keep him. now the question is, what do you think we get in return? With burns probably benched, could there be a CB in this trade? If it is a draft pick, what are you expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I'd be fine with a 3rd round pick. That's likely how much we'd get for him in regards to a comp pick. Just get him off the team. I usually wish players well when they leave here, but not him. I don't wish him to get injured or anything, but I hope he fails as miserably at football going forward as he will in his crappy music career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 There needs to be some sort of risk/reward type with this deal. The rental tag thrown around is a buncha mularkey as that diminishes his value. When he is not a rental. You can sign him before March - and you know his demands - if you have cap room and a bunch of these teams have $40m+ in cap room. Hell if he was iffy on playing he could take out insurance for a career ending injury like Marcus Lattimore did, and he never played again, so he could collect on the insurance. Think Anthony Kim as well. I'll go Oakland. Carr. Cooper. Bell. He balances out that offense instead of a power run scheme guy like they have with Beast Mode where they're getting 3 YPC. He gives them a checkdown option out of the backfield. Chills out the fans going buckwild for Mack Mania. They can get that ship going in the right direction on a quick turn around this year maybe make the playoffs and have the building blocks in place and still have two 1st rd picks next year. All I ask is for the 2020 Bears 1st rd pick. This is conditional of course. If he doesn't re-sign with Oakland then this pick reverts to a OAK 2019 3rd rd pick. This is fair for both teams. Pittsburgh gets upside in a conditional trade. Oakland gets a player that fits their scheme and if they choose to re-sign him they have a franchise player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 2018-09-22 at 11:12 AM, warfelg said: No. His value right now is 0. It's been 0 since July 16th. As soon as that deadline to extend him passed no team will touch him. Why trade for him when he'll be a FA soon? if a GM is delusional (sounds familiar?) and they need the player to win now and they believe they will sign him for $18M per with $45M guarantee. Again, key word, delusional but stranger things have happened as they say. @Money Gruden likes power football and he already has 2 good RB's. But if it happens, why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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