patriotsheatyan Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 What are some popular views about NFL history that you believe needs to be revised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 That Malcolm Butler's interception in Super Bowl XLIX was nothing but a terrible call. It was a call that made sense at the time: you don't want to give Brady and the Patriots any time left, so you don't necessarily want to score as early as possible. If nothing's open, throwing the ball away is easy and stops the clock, so no worries there. Plus, Lynch was not the amazing red-zone back that everyone thought he was that season. It wasn't a terrible play call - it made sense at the time, but since it didn't work out everybody questions it. It was a good play by Butler and an ill-timed stupid decision by Wilson, and Butler is discredited by people who think that the call was the only reason for its occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, AlNFL19 said: That Malcolm Butler's interception in Super Bowl XLIX was nothing but a terrible call. It was a call that made sense at the time: you don't want to give Brady and the Patriots any time left, so you don't necessarily want to score as early as possible. If nothing's open, throwing the ball away is easy and stops the clock, so no worries there. Plus, Lynch was not the amazing red-zone back that everyone thought he was that season. It wasn't a terrible play call - it made sense at the time, but since it didn't work out everybody questions it. It was a good play by Butler and an ill-timed stupid decision by Wilson, and Butler is discredited by people who think that the call was the only reason for its occurrence. I think everyone believe that Butler made a good play and that Wilson took a chance he shouldn't have. No one would have had an issue with the call if they ran and failed, even if Lynch fumbled it away, that would have just been on him. So that would have been the safe and smart play. They got a little cute and it backfired, that is going to be remembered as a poor playcall since it failed and wasn't the obvious choice. The Patriots took advantage of the situation but the situation itself will always be second guessed and should be. Those are the consequences with that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 hours ago, AlNFL19 said: It was a call that made sense at the time: you don't want to give Brady and the Patriots any time left, so you don't necessarily want to score as early as possible. wait what? So they don't want Brady to get the ball back with any time...so they pass? I have literally no idea what you're trying to say here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Scott Norwood's missed kick in Super Bowl 25. It was a 47 yard attempt, back in a time when kickers weren't as good as they are today. That NFL Films clip of him missing it has been replayed over and over again. For whatever reason, it's been embedded in the minds of people over time that the loss was his fault. If you go back and actually watch that game though, the Bills let the Giants play their game on offense during much of the contest. It should never have come down to that kick for Norwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Pittsburgh's Super Bowl "victory" over Seattle. The Seahawks got hosed in that game. Plus I'm a salty Browns fan and hate the Steelers, so obviously they cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaserFocus Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 2:44 AM, BleedTheClock said: Pittsburgh's Super Bowl "victory" over Seattle. The Seahawks got hosed in that game. Plus I'm a salty Browns fan and hate the Steelers, so obviously they cheated. If anything, the manufactured controversy over that authentic SB win has died down over the years nationwide. There was actually only one bad call which favored the Steelers in that game, and it had no bearing on the outcome. The rest of the calls are made every week in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, LaserFocus said: There was actually only one bad call which favored the Steelers in that game, and it had no bearing on the outcome. I disagree with this. It absolutely had a bearing on the outcome. I do think the better team won that Super Bowl for sure, but Seattle definitely got hosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 That a QB wins Super Bowls. Here is a list of DEFENSIVE points allowed in the playoffs by Super Bowl winning teams: Eagles - 16.6 Patriots - 18.0 Broncos - 14.6 Patriots - 18.3 Seahawks - 13.3 Ravens - 18.0 Giants - 14.0 Packers - 19.0 Saints - 19.6 Steelers - 19.6 Giants - 16.3 Colts - 12.75 (You think any QB is winning a Super Bowl throwing 3 TD/7INT in 4 games without that defense?) Steelers - 15.5 Patriots - 17.0 Patriots - 19.0 Buccaneers - 12.3 Patriots - 15.6 Ravens - 5.7 Rams - 19.6 Broncos - 10.6 That's the past 20 Super Bowl winners. Not a single team has won a Super Bowl while their defense allowed more than 19.7 points per game in the postseason. The average points allowed for Super Bowl winners in postseason games has been 15.8 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 5.7 from the 00's ravens defense..jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 34 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: That a QB wins Super Bowls. Here is a list of DEFENSIVE points allowed in the playoffs by Super Bowl winning teams: Eagles - 16.6 Patriots - 18.0 Broncos - 14.6 Patriots - 18.3 Seahawks - 13.3 Ravens - 18.0 Giants - 14.0 Packers - 19.0 Saints - 19.6 Steelers - 19.6 Giants - 16.3 Colts - 12.75 (You think any QB is winning a Super Bowl throwing 3 TD/7INT in 4 games without that defense?) Steelers - 15.5 Patriots - 17.0 Patriots - 19.0 Buccaneers - 12.3 Patriots - 15.6 Ravens - 5.7 Rams - 19.6 Broncos - 10.6 That's the past 20 Super Bowl winners. Not a single team has won a Super Bowl while their defense allowed more than 19.7 points per game in the postseason. The average points allowed for Super Bowl winners in postseason games has been 15.8 points. Thats a cool stat right there. So the defense wins championships statement has some merit? At least it does in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, August4th said: 5.7 from the 00's ravens defense..jesus Only team that I can think of in the modern era that was better was the 85 Bears. 3.3 points per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Thats a cool stat right there. So the defense wins championships statement has some merit? At least it does in the playoffs It's the only adage that's managed to remain true throughout the history of the Super Bowl. The only one. While collecting that data, it looks like at LEAST half of the teams on that list scored at LEAST one defensive touchdown en route to their Super Bowl wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Thats a cool stat right there. So the defense wins championships statement has some merit? At least it does in the playoffs ....until you put together a terrific defense......and the league changes the rules, just as you've risen to the top, in order to bring more offense to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMean69 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Stop The Patriots from cheating early on. Stop Spygate before they cheated Eagles in the SUperbowl in 05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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