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The fanbase who supports Flacco mostly react to the people who somehow want to make Flacco worse than he is - and therefor jumps to the constant irrational arguments to why he is so bad.

If these arguments should have any warrant, the Ravens should have by far the strongest roster in the league over 10 years to counter Flaccos apparent ineptitude.

As Dreamkid mentioned, the Ravens organization is moving on because the arrow after 2014 doesn't point up but down - this is very much because of injuries, as one of Flaccos strengths was staying healthy. If he continues to get dinged up, concussed etc. we will see Lamar Jackson. Until then Flacco gets a chance to prove he can still do what he has done for 10 years, keeping the Ravens a contender no matter the injuries, the Dean Pees defense collapses.

 

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Not sure there has been a more repetitive argument about the Ravens over the last 5 years as the one about Flacco and its one I have no interest in participating in.

Please keep the arguments civil

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15 minutes ago, drd23 said:

Not sure there has been a more repetitive argument about the Ravens over the last 5 years as the one about Flacco and its one I have no interest in participating in.

Please keep the arguments civil

i dont  care what the other mods say about you, your a smart man

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1 hour ago, drd23 said:

Not sure there has been a more repetitive argument about the Ravens over the last 5 years as the one about Flacco and its one I have no interest in participating in.

Agreed. The club is in such an exciting place and the Flacco discussion is about #17856 on the list of topics I care about.

Besides this a training camp thread....

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6 hours ago, DreamKid said:

Agreed. The club is in such an exciting place and the Flacco discussion is about #17856 on the list of topics I care about.

Besides this a training camp thread....

Guess we are just warming up to discuss something relevant. In some way, the Flacco discussion is relevant as it shows peoples opinion about our overall roster status.

Going in to this season, I believe we have a high floor but not a single elite player outside of a healthy Yanda. There is plenty of potential, but we seriously need breakout players who can make that final sack, interception, catch to end the game.

Depending on injuries, we might already see some sort of roster shuffling towards a youth movement. In 2 years, we could basically say goodbye to Flacco, Yanda, Jimmy Smith, Weddle and have a young team who can develop with Lamar Jackson.

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2 minutes ago, Danand said:

Going in to this season, I believe we have a high floor but not a single elite player outside of a healthy Yanda. There is plenty of potential, but we seriously need breakout players who can make that final sack, interception, catch to end the game.

I feel like Yanda is beyond elite, like if he's the the criteria everyone seems way worse in comparison lol.

Jimmy Smith really only got bested by Nuk last year and I have him down as the best WR in the game. So maybe slide him and obviously Tuck and maybe Koch into that elite category.

You're right though, we do have way more potential than we do consistently producing star players.

The big thing I'm looking for this training camp is for the FO to nut up. Veteran players have been given too much favor in the club these past couple of seasons. I'm sick of it. 

It's going to be a trial by fire for a guy like Orlando Brown Jr in camp. He has to go up against Sizzle, Judon, Bowser, T-Will and ZDS. It'll be good for him in the end though, he'll be forced to grow quickly.

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47 minutes ago, DreamKid said:

I feel like Yanda is beyond elite, like if he's the the criteria everyone seems way worse in comparison lol.

Jimmy Smith really only got bested by Nuk last year and I have him down as the best WR in the game. So maybe slide him and obviously Tuck and maybe Koch into that elite category.

You're right though, we do have way more potential than we do consistently producing star players.

The big thing I'm looking for this training camp is for the FO to nut up. Veteran players have been given too much favor in the club these past couple of seasons. I'm sick of it. 

It's going to be a trial by fire for a guy like Orlando Brown Jr in camp. He has to go up against Sizzle, Judon, Bowser, T-Will and ZDS. It'll be good for him in the end though, he'll be forced to grow quickly.

As one of the fiercest Brown supporters, I really hope he pulls through and I think he will be given every chance to do so with Hurst being the emergency backup.

With no injuries at all, our roster looks stacked and ready to go with the second inside linebacker spot as the only real weakness and a lot of question marks regarding the oline and wide receiver group. I do hope they will be able to keep some of the explosive young talent like Tim White or a Janarion Grant who both have a little bit of X-factor. 

Also we have to be able to put Tim Williams and Bowser to work this year, which will most likely be the end of a McClellan which would figure in well with your point about us having to move forward from versatile but mostly serviceable veterans.

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