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Who Will Be The Worst Team in the NFL?

Who Will Be The NFL's Worst?  

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  1. 1. Which team will hold the No. 1 overall draft pick in 2019? (Team Super Bowl odds according to Bovada in parentheses)

    • New York Jets (200-1)
      16
    • Miami Dolphins (150-1)
      20
    • Chicago Bears (100-1)
      3
    • Cincinnati Bengals (100-1)
      5
    • Buffalo Bills (100-1)
      33
    • Arizona Cardinals (100-1)
      7
    • Cleveland Browns (80-1)
      14
    • Washington (75-1)
      1
    • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (70-1)
      9
    • Indianapolis Colts (70-1)
      11
    • Seattle Seahawks (60-1)
      0
    • Detroit Lions (55-1)
      1
    • Baltimore Ravens (55-1)
      1
    • Tennessee Titans (45-1)
      0
    • Denver Broncos (40-1)
      0
    • Carolina Panthers (35-1)
      0
    • Dallas Cowboys (33-1)
      1
    • New York Giants (33-1)
      0
    • Kansas City Chiefs (30-1)
      0
    • Other (Please Specify)
      1


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Just now, DawgX said:

So your team has no chance at picking #1? Right.

I don't think the Browns will be the worst team next year, but with Hue Jackson, it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility. I mean, he went 0-16 last year with a team that truly should not have gone 0-16. A big part of the blame goes to Kizer, for being just straight up garbage, but part of that blame also goes to Hue.

The Jets were a lock for #1 last year.  Nobody else was even close, they were that bad but yet again they weren't even close to the race for #1 all season.  Sure they can pick if things derail as could a bunch of teams.  If I'm being honest though no I don't think they will be picking #1.  I think it's a 2 team race between BUF and CLE.  One team looks awful on paper the other just picked #1 two years in a row.  I'd say there are a few others MIA, BUF, INDY without Luck that have a better chance to pick #1 then the Jets but it's just my opinion. 

Despite being picked to finished dead last in the league on multiple occasions these past 2 decades, the Jets, while having some awful seasons along the way haven't picked #1 since 1998.

 

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1 hour ago, Danger said:

Due to the complications that were the 2001 season and there being 31 teams, this will be from 2002-2017 seasons.
 

 

 

Notice how the only team division that flucuates in the rankings at all is the AFC East dropping two spots, and the other two teams rising accordingly? The Patriots are the biggest outlier making that division appear to be stronger than it actually is. I guess you can take solace in the fact that even without the Patriots you guys are still better than the NFC West combined.

  All Teams     Subtract Best     DIFF    
AFC East 349 291 54.5% 226 254 47.1% 123 37 -7.4%
AFC North 321 315 50.5% 223 254 46.8% 98 61 -3.7%
AFC South 307 333 48.0% 212 268 44.2% 95 65 -3.8%
AFC West 318 322 49.7% 225 255 46.9% 93 67 -2.8%
NFC East 334 304 52.4% 241 238 50.3% 93 66 -2.0%
NFC North 310 330 48.4% 218 262 45.4% 92 68 -3.0%
NFC South 331 307 51.9% 241 238 50.3% 90 69 -1.6%
NFC West 286 354 44.7% 199 281 41.5% 87 73 -3.2%
  Before After Before After          
AFC East 54.5% 47.1% AFC East NFC East          
AFC North 50.5% 46.8% NFC East NFC South          
AFC South 48.0% 44.2% NFC South AFC East          
AFC West 49.7% 46.9% AFC North AFC North          
NFC East 52.4% 50.3% AFC West AFC West          
NFC North 48.4% 45.4% NFC North NFC North          
NFC South 51.9% 50.3% AFC South AFC South          
NFC West 44.7% 41.5% NFC West NFC West          

 

A+ post

 

So the AFCE drops from the strongest division in non-division games with the Patriots, to the 3rd-strongest division in non-division games without the Patriots (or the other division leaders).

 

So either way.... AFCE is not the worst division in the NFL over the past 15 years, not even in the worst half even when you only consider Miami, Buffalo, & the Jets. So let's collectively lay that myth to rest.

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Plus the other teams in the AFCE have to play the Pats twice each year which always hurts their overall records.  You basically have to go 10-4 in all your other games to make the playoffs.  

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18 hours ago, Texansfan713 said:

Even with Luck I think the Colts will be the worst team in the NFL this season.  I expect him to miss some games as well. 

It would probably be good for them in the long run. Grab Ed Oliver and keep stacking the talent.

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Looks like Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers benefited from weak divisions a lot more than Tom Brady did.

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50 minutes ago, Fidgit said:

Looks like Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers benefited from weak divisions a lot more than Tom Brady did.

I mean if anyone benefited from a weak division it'd be Matt Hasselbeck. Three times he won the division with fewer than 10 wins. (9-7, 9-7, 7-9 LOL)

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By the numbers the NFC South is the most competitive division. 

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4 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

It would probably be good for them in the long run. Grab Ed Oliver and keep stacking the talent.

As a UH fan, oh lord no.

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I think the Buccaneers end up with the #1 Pick followed closely by the Lions and Dolphins

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3 hours ago, Deekster37 said:

I think the Buccaneers end up with the #1 Pick followed closely by the Lions and Dolphins

Those are so interesting picks considering when those teams were healthy they were playoff contenders. 

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On 7/20/2018 at 11:49 AM, Danger said:

Found this via Reddit, this is from 2002-2016 seasons (since realignment before last season)

 

Non-Divisional Records

Team W L T PCT
New England 115 35 0 0.767
Indianapolis 93 57 0 0.620
         

 

Oh my god

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Washington for me by a wide margin. You never ever put your faith in recreating Andy Reid magic with his quarterbacks.

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14 hours ago, Boltstrikes said:

Washington for me by a wide margin. You never ever put your faith in recreating Andy Reid magic with his quarterbacks.

I'd be willing to legitimately bet large sums of money that Washington will not finish with the worst record in the league.

I dont think there will be that much of a drop off at QB. In fact, with Cousins gone and Smith replacing him, the Redskins offense might actually get better simply because Gruden will likely change their scheme and game plans around geared more toward run heavy, PA, RPO, etc. 

They added Guice who I think will be ab instant impact player, and will have Thompson back from injury as their pass catching specialist out of the backfield. I do worry a bit about their WRs, because Im not super high on Doctson and don't think they have a true #1 at all, but Im a big Paul Richardson fan and love what he can bring to the offense. Also, the OL couldnt possibly be any more injured than it was in 2017 unless the entire OL decided to go on a RV trip together and just ride off a cliff McBoyle style. 

Then there's the defense..which I see as a group that should be around the 6th to 10th best group in football. Like my team last year, its dominant pass rush should help mask some of the weaknesses in the secondary. 

I hate to say it because Ive really enjoyed watching them lose in comical fashion in the past, but Washington has me worried more than any other NFCE team. I think they'll be a strong regular season team and win 10-11 games, if they can just be league average health wise. Which isnt asking much tbh. But with that said, I see them as a one and done team in the playoffs if what I predict does come into fruition and they either get a WC spot or win the NFCE. Similar to the Chiefs of past I guess.

But as far as the topic, Im gonna go ahead and list the teams that I put $ to finish with UNDER their Las Vegas win total, or just the ones that I put more money on than others due to my confidence in theit ability to suck.

Buffalo (6.5 wins) 

-I think that this is as easy money as there is when betting team win/loss over/unders. I have no clur what Vegas is thinking setting Buffalo at 6.5 wins but then Arizona's is only just 5. Arizona is flying way under the radar. This team literally just won 8 games a season ago in a tough division and did so with garbage at quarterback and no David Johnson. I love the Rosen pick, but if Bradford manages to stay healthy I think they will win 8 or 9 games maybe even be in the WC hunt. With Rosen, I see a slight slight drop off. But back to Buffalo..seems like they have been well covered so far in this thread. IMO they have THE worst QB situation in the league. For the first time in I dont know how long, literally just about every team in the NFL has at least a PLAN at the position and have the guy or guys in place. Not all of them are good plans though, and Buffalo's is the worst I can think of. All that needs to be said is this: Nathan Pederman has a real shot at winning the starting QB job in week 1. If you took any three of their QBs and placed them on any other team, I dont see any one of them winning a starting job. That alone wouldnt be the reason theyll be so bad though. Its also the fact that they have surrounded their terrible quarterbacks with a bunch of terrible players, along with a 30 year old Shady McCoy who happens to be in the midst of a DV investigation and Kelvin Benjamin, who is a pretty below average #1 WR and coming off a major injury. Then to top it off, they have a defense that they seem to be building backwards. No front 7, and an okay secondary that has upside. Only that upside will be dampened by their counterparts' inability to get to the quarterback. 

So Yeah, I am as confident in Buffalo winning between 0 and 4 games as I am of any thing else in this league.  

Possibilities:

Kansas City (8.5 wins)

-I think this number is a bit of an overreaction to the addition of Sammy Watkins to a dynamic skill position group on offense (Kelce, Hunt, Hill). But RBs and WRs are arguably the least important positions on the either side of the ball. They have a suspect OL and a QB who has literally had one game in which he has played and people think hes just going to look like that or better every week as the full-time starter. Ive never been a Mahomes fan (I love his athleticism and arm but I value those two things much less than things like decision making, awareness, accuracy, ability to read defenses before the snap and adjust accordingly, ability to go through reads and be patient in the pocket, etc.). And the latter are all traits that Ive never seen Mahomes show at Texas Tech or in his one season (or one game) in the league. I think he is being insanely overrated and his errant throws and boneheaded decision making will leave KC fans actually pining for Alex Smith to come back. And the defense just lost a top 3 corner in the league, and is probably the worst its been overall since like 2014 or so. I see maybe 5 wins and maybe even worse.

Oakland (8 wins)

-Really? 8 wins? How did this team improve by 2 wins from 2017 (6-10)? I think their offseason was egregious, and I am worried about Derek Carr staying upright or who will be catching passes from him if he is upright even. I like Amari Cooper, but I dont think hes separated himself from the fellow 15 or so #1s on other teams that are all good but not great. Certainly not enough to shoulder the target share load. And I see an aging OL with not much promise, plus a bad RB group and bottom 5 defense. I hate that Oakland has failed to capitalize on the amazing promise they displayed in 2016. Could def see them finishing with a top pick.

 

   

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, BAConrad said:

 

Oakland (8 wins)

-Really? 8 wins? How did this team improve by 2 wins from 2017 (6-10)? I think their offseason was egregious, and I am worried about Derek Carr staying upright or who will be catching passes from him if he is upright even. I like Amari Cooper, but I dont think hes separated himself from the fellow 15 or so #1s on other teams that are all good but not great. Certainly not enough to shoulder the target share load. And I see an aging OL with not much promise, plus a bad RB group and bottom 5 defense. I hate that Oakland has failed to capitalize on the amazing promise they displayed in 2016. Could def see them finishing with a top pick.

 

   

 

 

 

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1. We upgraded the support staff. That's not debatable on any level. Look at our new DC, WR coach, and DL coach for just a few points of reference.

2. An aging OL that's still one of the best in the league. Interior OL tend to age well and we've invested at tackle for the future.

3. Who will he be catching passes from?

Cooper, Bryant, and Nelson with Switzer/Roberts fighting it out as a 4th option. Really? That receiving corps is above average at the very least. Jared Cook was good for us last year too.

4. Marshawn lynch lead the league in rushing in the 2nd half of the season (because his carries saw an uptick) behind an "aging line" and was top 5 in missed tackles last year. Jalen richard is a dynamic change of pace runner with one of the highest YPC in the NFL. He's also shown promise catching the ball. But yes, "bad" running back group.

We eked out a lot of wins in 2016 and lost a lot of close ones in 2017. If you actually dig into this roster, you'll see that this team is more talented than the one featured in 2016. And we have an even easier schedule.

But sure, we'll be competing for the #1 pick with out "egregious offseason". Let me guess, signing doug martin and washed vets for vet minimum and no guaranteed money is going to ruin the season for us? Or is it Rashaan Melvin, who was a #1 CB for Indy last season by all metrics? Or is it getting back a corner who was injured as a rookie and had the lowest passer rating allowed in CFB?

Or is it all the all pro departures we had in the offseason?

You tell me, which one is it?

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I can only think of  three teams in the running.

Buffalo Bills - Once the AJ McCarron experiment fails around mid season and Josh Allen gets thrusted into the lineup behind and awful OL then that should secure them a spot in the Top 5 of the draft

Cleveland Browns - Hue Jackson is all that needs to be said.

Arizona Cardinals - It's the off-season and Cardinals already have distractions off the field with their G.M being suspended and their Owners comments about protests. Add that with relying on Sam Bradford and a Rookie HC and you have recipe for disaster. The Cardinals are my favorites to pick #1 overall.

 

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