MWil23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Thelonebillsfan said: I got a call today that my three year old decided he was gonna paint his hair blue and threw his art project on his head to do so. So now I have to shave his head and wash paint out of it. But. He's left handed. #silverlining Dont let him throw a breaking ball until he’s shaving regularly. I’m serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Will do, but I need to rework it. So many new people have been added to my I told you so you *insert site inappropriate adjective here* list. It’s also on the old site so I have to find it in my inbox. Also long story short but I’m at the hospital right now. Just had kid #3, or as I like to call it, vasectomy time. Could take some time, but when I rework it in the fall I’ll PM you for sure, as well as @LETSGOBROWNIES and most of our Browns forum. Haha jk, get well soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: #silverlining Dont let him throw a breaking ball until he’s shaving regularly. I’m serious. Honestly I don't think a breaking ball is even necessary. 4 seem fastball, 2 seam fastball, changeup. Especially since the 2 seem with the right angle can have some significant downward movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: #silverlining Dont let him throw a breaking ball until he’s shaving regularly. I’m serious. Do you take me for a rank amateur sir? I've already got his pitching regimen planned out meticulously 3/4, fastball, change, always move eye level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: 8 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: I got a call today that my three year old decided he was gonna paint his hair blue and threw his art project on his head to do so. So now I have to shave his head and wash paint out of it. But. He's left handed. #silverlining Dont let him throw a breaking ball until he’s shaving regularly. I’m serious. Good advice. One other piece of advice for any left hander, keep him the **** off twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 18 hours ago, MWil23 said: I don’t fault him. He’s an elite catching prospect. We won’t agree here so I’m moving on. Oh I know he is a top tier catching prospects but you should do whatever it takes to be playing in the majors. He could be starting for the Indians right now in the outfield. Maybe in a year or two he moves back to catcher when Yans contract is up or that he plays great enough that he is a young stud OF. It was like he rather be a catcher in the minors than at least playing in the majors and starting your clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Oh I know he is a top tier catching prospects but you should do whatever it takes to be playing in the majors. He could be starting for the Indians right now in the outfield. Maybe in a year or two he moves back to catcher when Yans contract is up or that he plays great enough that he is a young stud OF. It was like he rather be a catcher in the minors than at least playing in the majors and starting your clock. There is virtually zero chance he comes to the majors in the OF and then goes back to catcher. That is far too much development time missed, especially for that position. And he is worth more as a catcher. Absolutely the right business decision, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, buno67 said: Oh I know he is a top tier catching prospects but you should do whatever it takes to be playing in the majors. He could be starting for the Indians right now in the outfield. Maybe in a year or two he moves back to catcher when Yans contract is up or that he plays great enough that he is a young stud OF. It was like he rather be a catcher in the minors than at least playing in the majors and starting your clock. After seeing what happened to Swihart I wouldn't change positions just to get a few AB's in the majors either. Kid cost himself millions and millions of dollars to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Good advice. One other piece of advice for any left hander, keep him the **** off twitter. Or if he’s a hot headed homophobic closer for the Braves keep him away from Sports Illustrated interviews. In all seriousness @Thelonebillsfan, If Madison Baumgarner can win with a fastball ratio of 80% so can your 13 year old. I preach this to the kids I coach. Teach him a two seam fastball and good change up. A cut fastball is also acceptable but not necessary until high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, MWil23 said: Or if he’s a hot headed homophobic closer for the Braves keep him away from Sports Illustrated interviews. In all seriousness @Thelonebillsfan, If Madison Baumgarner can win with a fastball ratio of 80% so can your 13 year old. I preach this to the kids I coach. Teach him a two seam fastball and good change up. A cut fastball is also acceptable but not necessary until high school. tbh with lefties I like the 4-seamer better. They can't throw a straight pitch even if they wanted to, so it's not like you need more movement on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, buno67 said: Oh I know he is a top tier catching prospects but you should do whatever it takes to be playing in the majors. When you’re ready to play and be successful while it’s in your best interests as a businessman. 7 minutes ago, buno67 said: He could be starting for the Indians right now in the outfield. Best case scenario right now is as a platoon player with Naquin or as a fill in for an injured Chissenhall. 7 minutes ago, buno67 said: Maybe in a year or two he moves back to catcher when Yans contract is up or that he plays great enough that he is a young stud OF. No chance missing years or reps at such an intricate position gives him that flexibility. Zero chance. 7 minutes ago, buno67 said: It was like he rather be a catcher in the minors than at least playing in the majors and starting your clock. It’s almost like he knows he’s the best prospect in the game and will get his chance to prove it, stay there, and make millions more in the long run...maybe even short run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: tbh with lefties I like the 4-seamer better. They can't throw a straight pitch even if they wanted to, so it's not like you need more movement on it. A four seam is super easy to learn, which is why I’d prefer teaching a two seam in middle school, so that way they learn command and develop confidence. If they have a natural 3/4 arm slot movement will come with a 4 seam regardless though, so each kid is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: tbh with lefties I like the 4-seamer better. They can't throw a straight pitch even if they wanted to, so it's not like you need more movement on it. Ehh...I actually like giving them both. It's not about more movement, it's about different. Lefty 4 seam appears to have a natural tail, but not as much downward movement. The 2 seam gives that which allows for swing and miss and ground ball rates that are really good. 4 seam for velocity and better command. And I agree with MWil I'd always teach 4 seam first even if I intend to switch to a 2 seam. The most important thing is repeatability of motion and that is easier for the kid to learn and see with a straighter, easier-to-command pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, big poppa pump said: Thanks for having me check this out @Bonanza23....now I see why I don't bother. A bunch of pretentious, know-it-all ball bags in here!!!!!! I think tbd is how you evaluate ALL trades....One never knows....I dig the tribe is going for it!!!! I’d like this post but I ran out after last nights flurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, MWil23 said: Will do, but I need to rework it. So many new people have been added to my I told you so you *insert site inappropriate adjective here* list. It’s also on the old site so I have to find it in my inbox. Also long story short but I’m at the hospital right now. Just had kid #3, or as I like to call it, vasectomy time. Could take some time, but when I rework it in the fall I’ll PM you for sure, as well as @LETSGOBROWNIES and most of our Browns forum. Probably half will be picksbooger fans ? Also congrats on the child and vasectomy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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