big_palooka Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 5:49 AM, Bitty 2.0 said: Risk injury? He’s already under contract. Exactly.... he's underpaid so why should he risk injury that could prevent him from landing the deal he deserves? That's why player who outplay their contracts hold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Guys, he never even showed up to a meeting, how is he going to get hurt in a meeting? He didn’t want to be a Raider get over. You need to "get over" and stop drinking kool-aid. He wanted to be a Raider, he just wanted to be paid according to his talent. Look at Earl Thomas. Held out all offseason and finally came back when he risked losing game checks. Where's he at now? Injured, 30 and a FA who will not command the same kind of money he could have gotten before injury. Players want to get paid. Saying Mack "didn't want to be a Raider" makes you sound as clueless as the Raiders owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Holding out is not the norm majority of players keep on showing up and their agents negotiate the contract. Not the norm? Just this offseason.... Mack, Donald (2 in a row), Julio Jones, OBJ, Bell, Thomas, David Johnon, Lewan and Roquan Smith (on a rookie contract). With exception of Bell and Thomas (who was paid previously).... all these players got the contract extensions they wanted. So you are flat out wrong. GOOD players, don't keep showing up. Their agents don't want to risk injury in the offseason. Happens every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808sinfour4time Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Holding out is not the norm majority of players keep on showing up and their agents negotiate the contract. I don't think "majority of players" is a useful point of comparison for someone like Mack. Holdouts from players of his caliber are pretty routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Not the norm? Just this offseason.... Mack, Donald (2 in a row), Julio Jones, OBJ, Bell, Thomas, David Johnon, Lewan and Roquan Smith (on a rookie contract). With exception of Bell and Thomas (who was paid previously).... all these players got the contract extensions they wanted. So you are flat out wrong. GOOD players, don't keep showing up. Their agents don't want to risk injury in the offseason. Happens every year. Out of hundreds who signed contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 No worries we will get a 20 something pick for the best de in the game. At least we got that cap space though. Bears took us to the woodshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 couldnt get R Smith or Leonard Floyd...nope nothing, we got hustled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: couldnt get R Smith or Leonard Floyd...nope nothing, we got hustled Have to let it play out. All depends on who the Raiders draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 John Lynch claiming in an interview that he believes the 49ers made a better offer for Mack before he was dealt to Chicago. Hindsight is obvi 20/20 after the Garrapolo injury but man would that've deadened the blow a little. Bear's pick is currently projected to be #26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 hours ago, riceman80 said: John Lynch claiming in an interview that he believes the 49ers made a better offer for Mack before he was dealt to Chicago. Hindsight is obvi 20/20 after the Garrapolo injury but man would that've deadened the blow a little. Bear's pick is currently projected to be #26. And the Jets said they never allowed them to make a better offer than the Bears. Our FO completely screwed the Mack trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billking Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 It just sickens the hell out of me everytime I think about this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 feels like ever since that one Sunday against the Colts this franchise has been cursed... one bad mistake after another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Hopefully next year the Bears follow in ours and Jax footsteps. 2 years ago, we were the hot new team then folded hard last year Its happening to Jax now With that division, I could see it happening to them next, ESPECIAlly if Mitch stumbles just a bit. That D is loaded, and it would be crazy for them to fall apart, but just look at Jax this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 hours ago, BackinBlack said: Hopefully next year the Bears follow in ours and Jax footsteps. 2 years ago, we were the hot new team then folded hard last year Its happening to Jax now With that division, I could see it happening to them next, ESPECIAlly if Mitch stumbles just a bit. That D is loaded, and it would be crazy for them to fall apart, but just look at Jax this year It would take 2 things to happen. Trubisky's wheels would have to fall all the way off and Fangio would have to leave for a HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: It would take 2 things to happen. Trubisky's wheels would have to fall all the way off and Fangio would have to leave for a HC job. neither are unrealistic. heres to hoping! Ill be crushed if we are top 10 next year and they are 25+.. that mean Mack for a 25 pick, and a move up of 10 picks or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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