riceman80 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, SimonGruber said: Wouldn’t you have wanted to see this roster with upgraded coaching first and see if Carr plays like 2016 before just saying let’s torpedo it ?. This is what kills me. We added a bunch of vets, went hard in trenches in the draft, and then we lost our most explosive players on offense and defense on the same day a week before the season starts. I wanted to see Mack, Irvin, Key, Hurst, and Hall on the field together on 3rd downs. I cant imagine how fantastic that group of passrushers wouldve looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, raiders90 said: if we're rebuilding, why trade a 3rd round pick for Bryant in his last year of a rookie contract???? makes sense smh. He felt generous and decided to give a charity pick and switzer to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gannon12 said: He felt generous and decided to give a charity pick and switzer to them Seriously. We're going into a rebuild but we have pieces in place all over, we used assets to acquire high risk players, signed a boatload of veterans. I dont see the direction really. Its like the goal was to not be terrible but not to be a playoff contender either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, riceman80 said: Seriously. We're going into a rebuild but we have pieces in place all over, we used assets to acquire high risk players, signed a boatload of veterans. I dont see the direction really. Its like the goal was to not be terrible but not to be a playoff contender either. Yep, and before the wacky trades though it went from promising to Cleveland in a hot second by the look of everything. I like joking about it because it eases the pain but in all seriousness we need to see this team in action to judge it. All I’m rooting for besides us is everyone playing the Bears this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Silver&Black88 said: Kolton is gonna take his lumps, but he might just pan out. If he does, we can find RT next year. Brandon Parker likely would've started at RT this year but he was hurt all camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 12 hours ago, NYRaider said: Brandon Parker likely would've started at RT this year but he was hurt all camp. Based on what? His wealth of experience against D3 guys? Not hating on you, just slightly upset about the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Based on what? His wealth of experience against D3 guys? Not hating on you, just slightly upset about the situation Vic Tafur said the plan was to have Miller back up Penn at LT and have Parker battle with Giacomini for the RT spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, NYRaider said: Vic Tafur said the plan was to have Miller back up Penn at LT and have Parker battle with Giacomini for the RT spot. Oh I figured that out, I was merely questioning their plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Oh I figured that out, I was merely questioning their plan. Yeah, we're in a tough spot at a lot of spots because we lack depth. The two additional first round picks should be huge in accelerating the rebuild though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Vic Tafur said the plan was to have Miller back up Penn at LT and have Parker battle with Giacomini for the RT spot. Hasn’t Parker been playing at LT predominantly in pre season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dessie said: Hasn’t Parker been playing at LT predominantly in pre season? I thought he was hurt all preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I thought he was hurt all preseason. Played against Rams and Packers at LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolni Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 It is kinda funny how much we overreact. Sad, but still kinda funny. When Gruden took over it was mostly sunshine and happiness. Now after a rocky offseason, but before a few actual regular season games everything is horrible and terrible. Mark Davis brought here Jon Gruden for long term, his and Derek Carr's spots are the 2 safe spots and everyone has to fight for his next paycheck. Theoretically I'm fine with that. You need a good HC and a good QB to have a shot. The roster will be completely new by this time next year. Reggie might be gone too. As bigP said the most important question for this year is how good Carr can be in this scheme. If Carr get's back to MVP or elit QB discussion we should have a good chance to build something for the long run. Let us see how good the gameplans are, how good the rookies and the important guys look in their places and build on that. Check our past 15 seasons...the 2017 season wasn't the anomaly...the 2016 season was that. We need a winning culture and that has to come from the HC and the QB IMO. Let Jon and Carr figure it out, we can't go in and replace him anyway right Relax, enjoy life and find the good stories, nice plays, emerging players during this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 If we're looking to rebuild why build the oldest roster in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: If we're looking to rebuild why build the oldest roster in the NFL? Normally... I would be with you on this, but the media is sensationalizing this because "OMG... Gruden likes veterans" Which he does and it's clear he wants to build this roster in his image, buuuuut........ Jordy (33), Reggie(34), Hall (33), DJ, Lynch (32), Nugent (36), Penn (35), Frostee (34), Of those, Jordy, Penn and Lynch are the only ones who will play significant roles. The rest are reserves. The core of this team is young. Young where it matters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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