IdigtheRaiders! Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Couldn't agree more. We have seen almost none of our first team offense and the tackles are EXTREMELY worrisome. I think they expected more from the guys at RT. It won't surprise me to see Penn back at LT shortly after the start of the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Couldn't agree more. We have seen almost none of our first team offense and the tackles are EXTREMELY worrisome. I think they expected more from the guys at RT. You knew when they threw Donald over to RT, they had a problem. The RT spot didn't work out how they planned. Now I getting the feeling they are throwing Miller to the wolves and praying Penn can be average on that side. Going to be a disaster IMO. Miller is going to get worked by Bosa/Miller, etc. He's not ready from what I've seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: It won't surprise me to see Penn back at LT shortly after the start of the regular season. And who's playing RT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, big_palooka said: You knew when they threw Donald over to RT, they had a problem. The RT spot didn't work out how they planned. Now I getting the feeling they are throwing Miller to the wolves and praying Penn can be average on that side. Going to be a disaster IMO. Miller is going to get worked by Bosa/Miller, etc. He's not ready from what I've seen We see eye to eye again, unfortunately. We should have tried harder to address RT if we weren't going to move Kolton (or McGlinchey). As I said, I think they had higher hopes for our young tackles. 16 minutes ago, big_palooka said: And who's playing RT? Could they try Aboushi? Just spit-balling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 56 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: We see eye to eye again, unfortunately. We should have tried harder to address RT if we weren't going to move Kolton (or McGlinchey). As I said, I think they had higher hopes for our young tackles. Could they try Aboushi? Just spit-balling. Maybe they get lucky and a vet gets released from another team. Right now, I don't see another option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Maybe they get lucky and a vet gets released from another team. Right now, I don't see another option Agree that this would be the ideal, but I'm not counting on it happening. Hence looking for answers on the roster. Not to mention we have no cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby81 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 RT has been awful for several years, going back to Cornell Green/Kwame Harris days. We have worked around it in the past with Austin Howard, and it can't get any worse. We have to hope Penn can become at least serviceable. Carr has always gotten rid of the ball extremely quickly so that negates the impact. Expect more screens this year as well. Run offense....well we are stacked with blockers in my opinion and I think Gruden has big plans for Keith Smith and blocking TEs. Could explain Seth Roberts likely making the team also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiders4life Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 We haven't seen any really creative formations or anything of the sort, so I'll reserve judgement until MNF. They clearly have been as vanilla as possible on the offensive side this preseason. Come MNF, I'm expecting a lot of double TE sets and two backs in the backfield. Gruden is going to try to live up to his idea of smash mouth football. Let the best middle 3 OL in the league put some guys on their *** then run some creative passes out of the same look. All said and done, if us fans are worrying about the tackles, then I'm sure Gruden and Olsen have been well aware of it for awhile and have been concocting a plan of action. At least I hope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Keith Smith is going to be Carr’s personal protector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, justwinbaby81 said: RT has been awful for several years, going back to Cornell Green/Kwame Harris days. We have worked around it in the past with Austin Howard, and it can't get any worse. We have to hope Penn can become at least serviceable. Carr has always gotten rid of the ball extremely quickly so that negates the impact. Expect more screens this year as well. Run offense....well we are stacked with blockers in my opinion and I think Gruden has big plans for Keith Smith and blocking TEs. Could explain Seth Roberts likely making the team also. Howard was atleast average but overpaid... Watson was average but injury prone... as bad as it may sound, bringing him back wouldn't be the worse idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby81 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: Howard was atleast average but overpaid... Watson was average but injury prone... as bad as it may sound, bringing him back wouldn't be the worse idea Calling Austin Howard and Menelik Watson, 2 guys cut or about to be, average goes to show how bad its been. They were and are well below average. The other trash we have had in the past at RT made them look serviceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Kolton at left tackle week 1 is a disaster. Honestly, he hasn't impressed me much. I'm not looking forward to him against any good pass rusher. Just watched DRC's interview. I like the guy. He looks happy to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Tackles are the weak point on this offense. I saw this coming a mile away. Penn is old, Giacomi is probably worse, than who we had last year, and Miller isn't ready. There's no way the raiders are going to be throwing it deep against teams like LA or DEN because Carr will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Chali21 said: Tackles are the weak point on this offense. I saw this coming a mile away. Penn is old, Giacomi is probably worse, than who we had last year, and Miller isn't ready. There's no way the raiders are going to be throwing it deep against teams like LA or DEN because Carr will die. Smith and Lynch will be extremely valuable in terms of pass protection this season. So many great pass rushers in our division and our OTs are going to have their hands full. Lynch is a great pass blocker and will more than earn his $$ keeping Carr upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Rbs in pass pro can only do so much. Thats one less person carr can check down to. If they blitz, miller and penn are on their own. It sounds like only deep passes will be mass protect play action plays with 3 routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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