Beast Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: Mack is a far superior player to Clark, let's be real. Clark profiles as an elite run defending, average pass rush DL. He's not Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald, Gerald McCoy. Mack is the best EDGE player in the NFL. Getting Mack for Clark and a 1st is totally a win for the team getting Mack. It just makes no sense for a contender. If I have a few years to build to the point of being a contender, damn right I pull the trigger. Kenny Clark is a lot better than you seem to realize. You only seem to be focused on pass rush and not the entire player. What you fail the realize is that Clark is making life a hell lot easier for his teammates. Clark is in the top 10 DTs in the NFL last year (according to PFF)... he's not yet in the top 5 but he's not even 23 years old yet either... still a growing boy. McCoy can put up a lot of sacks, but he's not even top 10 last year. The Raiders thought Clark and a 1st was better than Mack and so did the Packers because they didn't pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Beast said: I heard a rumor that the Raiders/Packers are attempting to work out a deal for Mack Raiders suggested two 1st round picks = Packers said no Packers countered with a 1st round pick and Matthews = Raiders said no Raiders countered with a 1st round pick and Kenny Clark = Packers said no And they're continuing to see if they can work out some sort of agreement. Also the Packers are checking the market to see what they could get for a couple of players including Matthews... which if they could get a 1st for him from some other team, then they might turn around and trade two 1st to the Raiders for Mack. But there are reportedly some other players other than just Matthews they're checking what they might get for them. You heard it here worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, blueswedeshoes said: You heard it here worst. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Beast said: Kenny Clark is a lot better than you seem to realize. You only seem to be focused on pass rush and not the entire player. What you fail the realize is that Clark is making life a hell lot easier for his teammates. Clark is in the top 10 DTs in the NFL last year (according to PFF)... he's not yet in the top 5 but he's not even 23 years old yet either... still a growing boy. McCoy can put up a lot of sacks, but he's not even top 10 last year. The Raiders thought Clark and a 1st was better than Mack and so did the Packers because they didn't pull the trigger. No Clark is exactly what I said, elite run defender, average rusher. He's somewhere 8-10 in DL rankings. 8-10th best DL is not more valuable than the best EDGE rusher. That said I already said I wouldn't accept that deal in the Packers current state as we need Clark badly this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Beast said: Huh? It’s not punny if you have to explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 You guys cracked the 100 pages. 3 first rounds picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Gannon12 said: You guys cracked the 100 pages. 3 first rounds picks. Deal! Tony Mandarich, Ahmad Carroll and HARRELL!!!!! are now on the Raiders. Packers get Khalil Mack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 So since the numbers on the Rodgers contract are more or less in, and it has not opened up oodles of cap space in the near term, I'm left to wonder "how would the Packers pay Mack if they traded for him". Like I get "you can always make more space" but in this case it seems tricky to pay a guy who wants/deserves like $20m per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBobGray Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: No Clark is exactly what I said, elite run defender, average rusher. He's somewhere 8-10 in DL rankings. 8-10th best DL is not more valuable than the best EDGE rusher. That said I already said I wouldn't accept that deal in the Packers current state as we need Clark badly this year. I wouldn't accept that deal period, almost regardless of the team. Clark's 23 with two more cheap years + his 5th year option. A top 10 DT with a cap hit < $3 million + a 1st round pick in a loaded EDGE draft? There's 0 chance I do that even for the best EDGE rusher, given Mack will make nearly 10 times what Clark does for the next two years. Mack's a monster, but that's just not a winning move IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: So since the numbers on the Rodgers contract are more or less in, and it has not opened up oodles of cap space in the near term, I'm left to wonder "how would the Packers pay Mack if they traded for him". Like I get "you can always make more space" but in this case it seems tricky to pay a guy who wants/deserves like $20m per. Tap the triangle button really really fast while you push the circle button once. Then hit the square button six times and the problem is solved. That's been my point and no one has an answer other than "it'll be ok." Hard to argue that logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, cannondale said: Tap the triangle button really really fast while you push the circle button once. Then hit the square button six times and the problem is solved. That's been my point and no one has an answer other than "it'll be ok." Hard to argue that logic Nobody has ever been in cap hell. Real thing I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchup Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, MrBobGray said: I wouldn't accept that deal period, almost regardless of the team. Clark's 23 with two more cheap years + his 5th year option. A top 10 DT with a cap hit < $3 million + a 1st round pick in a loaded EDGE draft? There's 0 chance I do that even for the best EDGE rusher, given Mack will make nearly 10 times what Clark does for the next two years. Mack's a monster, but that's just not a winning move IMO. I agree. Clark with three more relatively cheap years and being only 22 is more valuable to GB then a 27 year old Mack who will have to be paid the most in NFL history on his side of the ball. Clark in any deal is a non starter for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Norm said: Nobody has ever been in cap hell. Real thing I read. Speak for yourself! I've been to Lids Yeah they got 9999 hats but the Pack ain't one That's CAP HELL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Norm said: Nobody has ever been in cap hell. Real thing I read. You're becoming real over dramatic. I can't deal with 2 of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Doing my part to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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