packfanfb Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, skibrett15 said: How do we always get so lucky with impact defensive guys being on limited snaps in week 1 like Sheldon Richardson in week 1 Wasn't Richardson basically a bust last year for Seattle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Just now, HighCalebR said: That's his life passion. Let the light shine on. Can’t argue that. It’s so tough on any subjective view of who is better x or y. Use facts share have open mind see it for what it is. I ve tried the convince thing it doesn’t work. Just put a thought in and do some more reading. Great veiws all around on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, incognito_man said: 4 hours ago, JBURGE said: Are we actually arguing that clay Matthews prime was as good as Mack is right now? LMAO Recency bias right here Are you kidding? Clay was a top 3 edge rusher in his prime. Mack is the bet edge player in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, JBURGE said: Are you kidding? Clay was a top 3 edge rusher in his prime. Mack is the bet edge player in the NFL Very subjective as to the rankings. was Von Miller not the top guy now it’s Mack. What separates them. Mack is awesome but I wouldn’t say he’s the best he’s one of the best and there are a few right now that are elite and depending on each persons view they will be ranked accordingly by each your view considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Packers spent a 2nd (41) + (2) 3rds (73 + 83) = 900 pts That's equivalent to one 1st rounder ( # 18) for Clay Bears spent (2) 1sts . The least those traded picks could be worth is about 1180 pts and that's only if they win back to back SBs. If they finish in the middle of the league, the points go up to 2000, and the most they could be worth would be about 3000 pts if the bears draft 8th like they did in 2018. Add in the Kings Ransom and drafting a Star at pick 26 is clearly the winner... but I'd still love to have Mack too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Shanedorf said: Packers spent a 2nd (41) + (2) 3rds (73 + 83) = 900 pts That's equivalent to one 1st rounder ( # 18) for Clay Bears spent (2) 1sts . The least those traded picks could be worth is about 1180 pts and that's only if they win back to back SBs. If they finish in the middle of the league, the points go up to 2000, and the most they could be worth would be about 3000 pts if the bears draft 8th like they did in 2018. Add in the Kings Ransom and drafting a Star at pick 26 is clearly the winner... but I'd still love to have Mack too Don't forget about the 2nd they got back from Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Packers spent a 2nd (41) + (2) 3rds (73 + 83) = 900 pts That's equivalent to one 1st rounder ( # 18) for Clay Bears spent (2) 1sts . The least those traded picks could be worth is about 1180 pts and that's only if they win back to back SBs. If they finish in the middle of the league, the points go up to 2000, and the most they could be worth would be about 3000 pts if the bears draft 8th like they did in 2018. Add in the Kings Ransom and drafting a Star at pick 26 is clearly the winner... but I'd still love to have Mack too CHI is getting the player 1 full year ahead of 1 of the 2 firsts and 2 full years ahead of the other 1st. That should discount the draft pick value some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 This has to be thread of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, squire12 said: CHI is getting the player 1 full year ahead of 1 of the 2 firsts and 2 full years ahead of the other 1st. That should discount the draft pick value some. Sure, up until they don't go to the podium in round 1, 2 years in a row and their depth is shot because they aren't picking from the premium talent. Not to mention they are going to be in the QB market after next year. They won't give up on him after this year, and no ammunition to get a good QB prospect. They've got less cap money in the next 2 years than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Golfman said: Sure, up until they don't go to the podium in round 1, 2 years in a row and their depth is shot because they aren't picking from the premium talent. Not to mention they are going to be in the QB market after next year. They won't give up on him after this year, and no ammunition to get a good QB prospect. They've got less cap money in the next 2 years than we do. Not sure I was stating anything other the valuing the draft picks given up in future years when the player you acquire is playing 1 and 2 years ahead of when those picks can be made makes the trade value chart somewhat out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Wasn't Richardson basically a bust last year for Seattle? Decidedly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Just now, squire12 said: Not sure I was stating anything other the valuing the draft picks given up in future years when the player you acquire is playing 1 and 2 years ahead of when those picks can be made makes the trade value chart somewhat out of proportion. Yes, and according to how NFL people value future picks they lose a round in value over a year's time. I think my point was this trade does't make sense unless the Bears were on the brink of a Super Bowl and Mack was the piece they thought would put them over the top. The Bears with Mack are the Raiders last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 50 minutes ago, JBURGE said: Are you kidding? Clay was a top 3 edge rusher in his prime. Mack is the bet edge player in the NFL Uh no I'm not kidding. What's with the wild exaggeration all of a sudden? It's like Mack is suddenly the GOAT around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Are we talking joystick or arrow buttons here. Makes all the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Why are people still arguing with Bear trolls? They finished 4 in s year AR missed 9 games. They essentially had a 00’s redskin/raider offseason, overpaying for mediocre starter. They will be 6-10 with a crappy qb and no picks, and cap space in 4 months. Post Carson Palmer Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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