Ragnar Danneskjold Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Beast said: Yes, rumors have been that Mack wants the largest contract ever given to a defensive player and highest paid defender... so 5 years, 110 million (22 million per season) is right in line I think. And fans want to throw two 1st round picks at the Raiders for the pleasure of signing him to that contract. Mack is a great player... that's just a ton to invest into any single player. Especially when you look at other 100 million type contracts where players (for different reasons) haven't been living up to them... even the GREAT JJ Watt... he's played amazing when healthy, he just hasn't been that healthy since signing his 100 million contract. That is a lot given that Chandler Jones has more sacks that Mack in the last 3 years, and he is only averaging 16.5 per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 hours ago, cooters22 said: Game was in Green Bay last night. This is not in the proper spirit for this thread: Pick a premise and argue vehemently in favor of it! If Shanedorf wants to start with the premise that Gute was in Nashville let’s hear him out! The silver shoes evidence is overwhelming, by the way. I think it moves me directly into the “Gute is running an op to snag Mack while Mark Murphy maintains plausible deniability for flirting with the boundaries of league rules” camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, blueswedeshoes said: If Shanedorf wants to start with the premise that Gute was in Nashville let’s hear him out! occam's razor blueswedeshoes: I just whiffed on the location....which is quite pathetic given how easy it is to tell that it's Lambeau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakeshoppe Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: occam's razor blueswedeshoes: I just whiffed on the location....which is quite pathetic given how easy it is to tell that it's Lambeau I mean there is a giant sign that says Lambeau Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkySauce Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Beast said: Two players alone don't win Super Bowls... Um, what about Scott? Don’t overthink it. We got this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, StinkySauce said: Um, what about Scott? Don’t overthink it. We got this. He might be good trade bait for Mack... in fact, I'm sure the Packers pissed the Raiders off by grabbing him one selection before they were going to pick him. Raiders released their Punter (for drama and cash reasons), and they were going to grab one of the two elite punters in the draft. Seahawks grabbed one, and then one pick ahead of the Raiders, the Packers grabbed the other... Raiders grabbed the punter they thought was next best. But I wonder if Gute knew the Raiders would grab him, so he grabbed him first. Besides, with Aaron Rodgers leading us and 7 WRs, we're not going to need a punter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 So does this mean we are definitely getting him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just give up the two - 1st next year and a couple of fringe guys and lets get this done. Turns our defense into a top 5 unit immediately. Of course, the Raiders would have to be stupid to make any deal for this kid other than a long-term deal to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I'd give up the 2 firsts but I'd like to recoup a day 2 pick somehow in the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I thought the 2019 edge class was deeper than 2018's. We have two picks in the first to get a quality edge why pay mack 18 million and lose Clark and Dix? I also wouldn't mind locking up Wilkerson if he proves he wants to live up to his contract. I don't want to trade away picks for him. We need those picks for edge, RT and TE. With Rodgers massive payday looming we need to stock up on cheaper talent. Mack and Rodgers contracts would cripple this team financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 The Packers aren't about to make a trade that will cripple the franchise financially, its just not in their DNA So IF they make a deal, you can be sure that it all pencils out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, St Vince said: I thought the 2019 edge class was deeper than 2018's. We have two picks in the first to get a quality edge why pay mack 18 million and lose Clark and Dix? I also wouldn't mind locking up Wilkerson if he proves he wants to live up to his contract. I don't want to trade away picks for him. We need those picks for edge, RT and TE. With Rodgers massive payday looming we need to stock up on cheaper talent. Mack and Rodgers contracts would cripple this team financially. This would be the prudent thing to do. We could stay the course and hope for the best... in 3 years when those rookie pass rushers are actually ready to contribute. Most teams are able to pay 11 or 12 "core" guys. The rest are on rookie deals or reasonable 2nd contracts for role players. Getting Mack would likely mean the likes of Cobb and Matthews would be gone after this year, but it wouldn't stop the Packers from resigning HHCD or Clark in 2019 and 2020. Gute inherited a very healthy cap with no bloated contracts weighing him down. Players likely to see a decline in their play due to age are only signed for 1 or 2 more years. You've got to go all in when the window is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Saw the article on Packers Wire about the odds of Mack playing here. Clickbait extraordinare. I would give up the Packers 1st rounder and a third to get the deal done. As far as contract he shouldn't be the highest paid defender in the league. He's good but c'mon. 18 mil/yr range sounds about right. Would be ecstatic to get him but please it ain't going to happen. Matthews and Cobb< Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scoremore said: Saw the article on Packers Wire about the odds of Mack playing here. Clickbait extraordinare. I would give up the Packers 1st rounder and a third to get the deal done. As far as contract he shouldn't be the highest paid defender in the league. He's good but c'mon. 18 mil/yr range sounds about right. Would be ecstatic to get him but please it ain't going to happen. Matthews and Cobb< Mack. Which defender should be higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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