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On 8/16/2018 at 12:22 PM, BigMountainGoat said:

You are wrong. If there was any realistic chance Mack was on the market, there would so many teams interested the demand would push the price well above a 1st.

Not many teams can afford his contract to say I am wrong and that so many teams would be interesting is just a pure opinion. Realistically not many teams can afford him at the moment which puts the bills in a good place. As of right now the rumors are the Packers, then the bills, then the jets as top teams interested. Again it is mere speculation based on media which comes and goes all the time but if he were to be an option it seems that bills would be up there to get him based on need, space, and pieces willing to offer up for him.

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13 hours ago, soflbillsfan said:

Not many teams can afford his contract to say I am wrong and that so many teams would be interesting is just a pure opinion. Realistically not many teams can afford him at the moment which puts the bills in a good place. As of right now the rumors are the Packers, then the bills, then the jets as top teams interested. Again it is mere speculation based on media which comes and goes all the time but if he were to be an option it seems that bills would be up there to get him based on need, space, and pieces willing to offer up for him.

Plenty of teams have a lot of cap space next year. Most of the league could afford his contract especially if you backload it (which the Bills would have to themselves). That's not opinion, that's fact, just look at cap situations. And of course plenty of teams will be interested, he is a highly rated pass rusher in a league where they are in short supply, he would help virtually every team. Furthermore it only takes 2 teams to create a bidding war. Mack would cost multiple high (day 1 or 2) draft picks. Anything less is just wishful thinking.

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Khalil Mack is gonna cost our 2019 1 guaranteed. My guess would be 2019 (1), 2020 (2) and maybe a controlled player like Shaq Lawson and a mid round pick in 2019 or 2020.

I'm not sure we'll even listen to dealing 2019(1) Considering our QB situation 

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How has Shaq Lawson performed you guys? Dude was my favorite defensive prospect outside of Khalil Mack in the past 5-6 years. I thought he was gonna be a 10+ sack guy every year. 

I want to keep Mack more than anything but two 1sts and Lawson would be tempting. 

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8 minutes ago, BayRaider said:

How has Shaq Lawson performed you guys? Dude was my favorite defensive prospect outside of Khalil Mack in the past 5-6 years. I thought he was gonna be a 10+ sack guy every year. 

I want to keep Mack more than anything but two 1sts and Lawson would be tempting. 

If the bills gave up 2 first rounds for a DE and paid him 22 million a year I would be on the bandwagon of firing Beane. In the case of Shaq lawson he has been one of the most improved players in camp this year as he lost 20 pounds and has increased his power and speed. Only playing time will tell on whether he has done better. This is a make or break year for him and if he doesnt perform well then they could move on from him. His history of injuries are concerning as well as he can not stay on the field for an entire season.

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2 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said:

If the bills gave up 2 first rounds for a DE and paid him 22 million a year I would be on the bandwagon of firing Beane. In the case of Shaq lawson he has been one of the most improved players in camp this year as he lost 20 pounds and has increased his power and speed. Only playing time will tell on whether he has done better. This is a make or break year for him and if he doesnt perform well then they could move on from him. His history of injuries are concerning as well as he can not stay on the field for an entire season.

Your first sentence is you want the Bills to do whatever it takes to get Khalil Mack, lol. You are not getting Khalil for a second, that's a pipe dream. Not even a single 1st would do it. At least a 1st, 2nd, and a player. Preferably two 1st's. 

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1 minute ago, BayRaider said:

Your first sentence is you want the Bills to do whatever it takes to get Khalil Mack, lol. You are not getting Khalil for a second, that's a pipe dream. Not even a single 1st would do it. At least a 1st, 2nd, and a player. Preferably two 1st's. 

When I say do whatever it takes I mean that with in reason, this isnt madden football where you give fake picks to land a guy. Mack may be good but he holds all the cards and the Raiders have no leverage its either pay the guy or let him sit. If mack was willing to stay on his rookie scale and had some time left then I would agree 2 first round picks would get it done but he wants 22 million that is more then 10% of a teams annual salary meaning they have to fill 52 other slots with 90% of their cap space. Giving up 2 first round picks for a non qb and paying him that much would put a team back 5-10 years. Especially if the guy just wants the money and sits back and collects a paycheck. Is he going to be hungry after getting paid that is something we see all the time from players, especially with Marcel Dareus. Qb's may get two 1st round picks but a non qb would be lucky to get a 1st and something else either a late round pick or a player. I may be dreaming on a 2nd round pick but you are dreaming if you think your getting 2 first and a player. It will be interesting to see what happens to mack but I think Raiders will cave and pay him the money once they realize that they need him on defense more then what they get from him in a trade. 

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3 hours ago, BayRaider said:

Your first sentence is you want the Bills to do whatever it takes to get Khalil Mack, lol. You are not getting Khalil for a second, that's a pipe dream. Not even a single 1st would do it. At least a 1st, 2nd, and a player. Preferably two 1st's. 

I love Mack. Man I wanted him so bad and thought he really would have been an asset had we drafted him. Defenses can generate a pass rush through a player's ability or by using a creative scheme or a combination of the two. The sack totals do not need to be equal, we just need someone in the QB's face to disrupt things. So even though Mack is clearly a stud, he is not some golden lottery ticket that can't be done without. Keep him and give him his $22 mil, cuz you're not getting 2 1st rounders and Lawson for him...especially since he's made it clear that he wants a pay raise ASAP.

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