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Man it has been dead in here. I hope everyone hasn't left and given up. Some notes about training camp on the eve of the first preseason game. Mike Gesicki is the real deal and is the #1 TE right now. For anyone who follows Gase, you know how big of a deal this is. Gase hates playing rookies. Especially on offense. Mike G has been unstoppable in practice. I don't know how many TD's he has, but even when matched up against the starting secondary, he comes down with the football. His jumping ability, catch radius, and ability to read the football is elite. I don't know how well he is doing in blocking, but as far as receiving, he has been Tannehill's best weapon in the red zone. Minkah has also played extremely well, and has been an interception machine. He has played a ton in the slot in certain packages, and plays with tight coverage. When he is at center field, it has been very difficult to get behind him. Jerome Baker hasn't looked ready to play. He has done very well in special teams, but it has been reported that he looks lost when playing OLB. He needs lots of work learning NFL offenses and where he needs to be. Chase Allen has the edge right now at OLB, and has outplayed S. Anthony. Smythe has been pretty invisible in camp, but he did have a clutch TD. He has lots to work on. Ballage has flashed at times, and is a tremendous athlete. He is buried on the depth chart right now, so I doubt he gets much playing time this year barring an injury. I haven't heard anything about Armstrong, so he must not be doing much. Poling has flashed at times, and he has elite speed and athleticism. He has been great in coverage and special teams, and he has a great shot at making the 53. Other surprises. Tory McTyer is winning the #2 CB battle right now. The D-line has been unstoppable against the passing game. Wake and Quinn haven't lost a step, and Spence has gotten great penetration in the middle. It has been so dominant that the coaching staff hasn't really been able to tell how good the O-line is coming along, and they really need to see them in action against the Bucs to have a point to measure.

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I guess I will keep putting some updates. Baker has been getting reps at OLB. Anthony seems to be a bust, and word is that he may not make the final 53. Baker is finally reading plays correctly, and is getting to the ball carrier quickly. He is also very good in coverage. The only real problem with Baker as a starter, is we don't know how well he can tackle against elite NFL RB's. They could rotate Allen with Baker as they both compliment each other well. Parker hasn't done anything in camp to keep his starting WR job. In fact, rumors are starting to swirl that he may be out. In practice, the most successful WR group has been Amendola as the 1, Stills as the 2, Wilson in the slot, and Grant as the 4. I wouldn't be surprised to see Parker traded. The other big battle right now is CB. Howard just doesn't seem to be able to bring his practice play to games. The Phins are so worried that they are looking for possible upgrades through a trade. The team had McCain at CB1, Howard at CB2, and Minkah covering the slot in practice. Ballage has turned heads in practice, and he had a really good first preseason game. If he can get over his rookie wall quickly, he may get some significant playing time this year. He is very hard to tackle, and has a great burst that carries him through contact. Mike G' effort has caught Gase's eye. Gase said that Mike has been getting destroyed by Cam Wake in practice, but he never complains, gets back up, and goes right back at it. He said that Mike has talent that is very rare at that position, and if he can become an effective blocker, he won't have to come off the field. The starting TE job I Mike G's for the taking. The starting D-line was flat against the Bucs. Quinn said that the fast pace and hard work of training camp has slowed the big guys down some, but said that as camp winds down, that won't be a problem. He said that they were all bruised and cut up, but they are all veterans and know what to do. The offensive line is getting better each day, and they are starting to look like a cohesive unit. One national reporter said that if Tannehill has time to throw, the talent at RB, WR, and TE will be hard for defenses to match up against. Tannehill knows the offense, and has been working the pocket like a veteran. His accuracy on long throws still isn't where you want it, but the short and intermediate throws have been on the money, and that is the sweet spot in Gase's offense.

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Tell me about Gabe Wright. The Raiders just picked him up. I know about the incident between Drake, but besides that what does he offer? Would he have made your roster otherwise? I doubt he makes the 53 because we have some solid depth for the first time ever at DT.

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14 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

Tell me about Gabe Wright. The Raiders just picked him up. I know about the incident between Drake, but besides that what does he offer? Would he have made your roster otherwise? I doubt he makes the 53 because we have some solid depth for the first time ever at DT.

Probably wouldn't have made the roster. The top 4 spots are essentially locked up. I'm not sure if Wright is still PS eligible.

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Well, it's official. There is a youth movement in Miami, for better or worse. We will find out in 2 and a half weeks. Here is the latest info. QB-Tannehill is of course the starter. Right now Osweiler is the 2nd QB. The Phins have been concerned about Fales gunslinger attitude. He seems to have the same kind of faults that drove them crazy with Mat Moore. The team isn't expected to keep a 3rd QB on the active roster, so the only other QB will have to be practice squad eligible. Osweiler isn't ideal, but he hasn't turned the ball over, and the Phins would rather have a checkdown QB than one that throws picks. At RB-Drake and Gore have been advised that they are both starters, some games it will be Drake, others Gore. They will have equal carries during the game, as long as Gore holds up. Ballage will be the 3rd RB, but he isn't expected to get allot of work during the season, except on special teams. No 4th RB is expected on the active roster. OLine-The starters of Tunsil, Sitton, Kilgore, Davis, James is set. The line has really started to gel, and their blocking, even in preseason, is far better than last year. Tannehill hasn't been touched, and they are averaging over 5 yards a carry. The Phins are optimistic that they have finally found the answer to the line. The backups are still fighting, but Larsen and Asiata are expected to be retained, as well as a swing OT. TE-here is where it starts to get interesting. Gesicki will be the 1,Smythe has the 2 locked down, with Gray the 3. The Phins are confident that the pair of rookies can handle the job. WR-as expected Parker, Amendola, Stills, Wilson, and Grant will be the top 5. No word yet if there will be a 6th on the 53. Over to the defense. The D line will be Wake, Phillips, Spence, Quinn. The primary reserves will be Hayes, Godchaux, Taylor, Harris. Branch and Langford will also make the team, beyond that we don't know if any additional players will make it. At LB- The young LBers will get a shot at seeing if they can develop into something special. Baker and McMillian will be at OLB, and ILB, with Alonzo at the other OLB. Allen, Hull, and Anthony will be the reserves. Secondary-Howard will stay the 1, with McCain now being the 2. Tankersly and Lippett will make the team as reserves. Fitzpatrick will cover the slot, with Jones and McDonald at S. Unless something radical happens the next 2 weeks, this isn't expected to change. The real battle right now is for the Phins to decide what positions will have extra depth, and as always special teams will have a big effect on this. There really is about 7 spots left up for grabs.

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On 8/22/2018 at 11:14 AM, ericsvibe said:

Well, it's official. There is a youth movement in Miami, for better or worse. We will find out in 2 and a half weeks. Here is the latest info. QB-Tannehill is of course the starter. Right now Osweiler is the 2nd QB. The Phins have been concerned about Fales gunslinger attitude. He seems to have the same kind of faults that drove them crazy with Mat Moore. The team isn't expected to keep a 3rd QB on the active roster, so the only other QB will have to be practice squad eligible. Osweiler isn't ideal, but he hasn't turned the ball over, and the Phins would rather have a checkdown QB than one that throws picks. At RB-Drake and Gore have been advised that they are both starters, some games it will be Drake, others Gore. They will have equal carries during the game, as long as Gore holds up. Ballage will be the 3rd RB, but he isn't expected to get allot of work during the season, except on special teams. No 4th RB is expected on the active roster. OLine-The starters of Tunsil, Sitton, Kilgore, Davis, James is set. The line has really started to gel, and their blocking, even in preseason, is far better than last year. Tannehill hasn't been touched, and they are averaging over 5 yards a carry. The Phins are optimistic that they have finally found the answer to the line. The backups are still fighting, but Larsen and Asiata are expected to be retained, as well as a swing OT. TE-here is where it starts to get interesting. Gesicki will be the 1,Smythe has the 2 locked down, with Gray the 3. The Phins are confident that the pair of rookies can handle the job. WR-as expected Parker, Amendola, Stills, Wilson, and Grant will be the top 5. No word yet if there will be a 6th on the 53. Over to the defense. The D line will be Wake, Phillips, Spence, Quinn. The primary reserves will be Hayes, Godchaux, Taylor, Harris. Branch and Langford will also make the team, beyond that we don't know if any additional players will make it. At LB- The young LBers will get a shot at seeing if they can develop into something special. Baker and McMillian will be at OLB, and ILB, with Alonzo at the other OLB. Allen, Hull, and Anthony will be the reserves. Secondary-Howard will stay the 1, with McCain now being the 2. Tankersly and Lippett will make the team as reserves. Fitzpatrick will cover the slot, with Jones and McDonald at S. Unless something radical happens the next 2 weeks, this isn't expected to change. The real battle right now is for the Phins to decide what positions will have extra depth, and as always special teams will have a big effect on this. There really is about 7 spots left up for grabs.

I haven't seen anything saying that Lippett is a lock for the roster.  That achilles injury really took its toll on him.

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25 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

I haven't seen anything saying that Lippett is a lock for the roster.  That achilles injury really took its toll on him.

Yeah he might be a surprise cut. Remember the Dolphins really want to keep S Maurice Smith, who took off this preseason, and Fitzpatrick will play a lot of slot CB; not only that, but CB Torry McTyer had a surprise showing so far this offseason.

I liked Lippett a lot but the Achilles injury is so, so rough for CBs.

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In an interview this week, Gase stated that the final roster spots are still being decided. A reporter asked if the level of talent, or special teams would influence this. Gase said that they have to have good special teams players, so there could be another 2 or 3 defenders in the secondary kept for this reason. Gase said that Lippett is fully healed, but he doesn't have all of his strength back. He said that Lippett is going to get allot of playing time against the Falcons. To me, just setting that time aside for a player lets me know that Gase wants to keep him.

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1 hour ago, ericsvibe said:

In an interview this week, Gase stated that the final roster spots are still being decided. A reporter asked if the level of talent, or special teams would influence this. Gase said that they have to have good special teams players, so there could be another 2 or 3 defenders in the secondary kept for this reason. Gase said that Lippett is fully healed, but he doesn't have all of his strength back. He said that Lippett is going to get allot of playing time against the Falcons. To me, just setting that time aside for a player lets me know that Gase wants to keep him.

Or that he needs more of an extended look at him to see if he is worthy of a spot on the roster.

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