DawgX Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 48 minutes ago, CBrownsman said: Hindsight is 20/20 Granted we haven't signed him yet, but if a deal goes through, I will have no problem with the Shelton trade. I did think we were a little weak at DT depth when the trade happened, and didn't know who our starters would be. (Coley didn't impress me and Meder isn't a starter in the NFL, I liked Ogunjobi but Calib hadn't come into his own yet) I think our team improves but I think this was another consistent strike against us as an origination for being able to keep our own impact starters. Danny might not have been the pass rusher, but he was definitely an impact on the run defense, and his constant ability to require double teams opened up pass rushing lanes for the linebackers... I disliked the trade when it happened. But they obviously weren't planning on signing him long-term, so it was better to get a third round pick now instead of letting him walk and just maybe getting a third round pick at best a couple of years from now. But I do agree about our DT situation. There's some potential there, but no one who's truly proven. That's why I'd like to bring in a proven guy like Hankins. Have him and Ogunjobi start, with Coley, Brantley and maybe Meder being good rotational guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrownsman Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, DawgX said: I disliked the trade when it happened. But they obviously weren't planning on signing him long-term, so it was better to get a third round pick now instead of letting him walk and just maybe getting a third round pick at best a couple of years from now. But I do agree about our DT situation. There's some potential there, but no one who's truly proven. That's why I'd like to bring in a proven guy like Hankins. Have him and Ogunjobi start, with Coley, Brantley and maybe Meder being good rotational guys. Understandable. It was nice to get a 3rd round pick for it when we weren't going to re-sign him. I am just infuriated by the idea that new GM comes in and wants new guys for his team every time. Even when we have had a productive 1st round pick like Shelton, we plan to let him walk anyway. But I understand wanting more pass rush out of the #12 overall pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NudeTayne Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, buno67 said: I'm wondering what his representation is asking for in terms of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: I'm wondering what his representation is asking for in terms of contract. Yeah, is it them, is it him, is it him wanting to skip most of training camp, is he woefully out of shape? Really gotta wonder at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 7 hours ago, NudeTayne said: I'm wondering what his representation is asking for in terms of contract. 10 mil/yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, pnies20 said: 10 mil/yr Id give him 9-10 for one, Donatari Poe got 8 from Atlanta for one year. He is one of the top fat guys on the DL. As @Fatgerman there is an ever decreasing role and value for those behemoths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Kiwibrown said: Id give him 9-10 for one, Donatari Poe got 8 from Atlanta for one year. He is one of the top fat guys on the DL. As @Fatgerman there is an ever decreasing role and value for those behemoths. He wants a multi year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, pnies20 said: He wants a multi year deal. I don't think his production, roe and character point to multi year investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: I don't think his production, roe and character point to multi year investment. Agree. Which is why he left without getting signed I'd say. Its a shame. He could've bolstered our thin DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, pnies20 said: Agree. Which is why he left without getting signed I'd say. Its a shame. He could've bolstered our thin DL. I didn't like his previous work out video either. Though I want sure what the hell I was meant to be looking at with a giant fat guy moving side to side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 I thought I saw reports that the other guy they signed, they liked more because he fits the scheme better than Hankins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, buno67 said: I thought I saw reports that the other guy they signed, they liked more because he fits the scheme better than Hankins. quiet possible Greg like penetrators rather than pure NT ie Shelton, though he played well last year was not a G Williams type of guy. I think you still want a couple of whales though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, buno67 said: I thought I saw reports that the other guy they signed, they liked more because he fits the scheme better than Hankins. Blaine Woodson being a more impactful player for our scheme over Hankins is rubbish. Or, we need a new DC, if Williams prefers Blaine Woodson over Big Hank. With that said, the dollars obviously aren’t matching what Hank can produce right now or he’d be employed long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, NateDawg said: Blaine Woodson being a more impactful player for our scheme over Hankins is rubbish. Or, we need a new DC, if Williams prefers Blaine Woodson over Big Hank. With that said, the dollars obviously aren’t matching what Hank can produce right now or he’d be employed long ago. Not too rubbish when a Hankins type player in Shelton was just traded. If he doesn’t fit the scheme, why pay him the money he wants when what makes him good might not work here in Cleveland. You don’t change what your doing in week2 of the preseason cause of a newly acquired FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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