Humble_Beast Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Do you guys view him as the future leader of the defense? Middle linebacker of the future?? The real reason we left Navarro Bowman walk in free agency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 remember he is just 22 years old.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuNgn90LMdk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Totty Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Average at best starter going forward. I actually like the future of Victor over Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 He could become a solid run-stopper but that is about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 All 3 are surprising me this PS though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I'm interested to see what happens with Lee, particularly in the current context of Guenther being his DC. In Cincy, he seemed to have starters who were viewed as less athletic, run first guys, which Lee is. And the Cincy LB core was lauded as being successful. I know there has been a clamour for athletic, fast LBs and that's where most of the league seems to be heading. I'm not sure that's what Cincy had though and I suspect he's looking for something different than what the consensus view of a linebacker on here is. And Lee has certainly looked the part in PS, albeit against poor opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Totty said: Average at best starter going forward. I actually like the future of Victor over Lee. What makes you say that? I was excited about Victor, but he hasn't really shown up and looks like an easy roster cut in a couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Victor has shown very little in the two games. Lee has played very well in those two games and from all reports has had a good camp. He looks like a totally different player. Looks comfortable in this scheme and seems to be just reacting more quickly. Will be interesting to see how Gruden does his depth chart cause IMO he should start over D.Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Victor has shown very little in the two games. Lee has played very well in those two games and from all reports has had a good camp. He looks like a totally different player. Looks comfortable in this scheme and seems to be just reacting more quickly. Will be interesting to see how Gruden does his depth chart cause IMO he should start over D.Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 14 hours ago, big_palooka said: What makes you say that? I was excited about Victor, but he hasn't really shown up and looks like an easy roster cut in a couple weeks. I don't get a vibe that he's going to be anything special. 25 tackles in a rookie season. Idk There was a flash play here and there. I just don't see what's to be over joyed about. Victor had at one point early round draft potential. A down year and some other issues. I think he takes a little time to get there but I think he'll be the answer at some point going forward. Lee would be solid depth. I'm not saying he sucks, just that I'm anticipating Victor taking the role of starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Totty said: I don't get a vibe that he's going to be anything special. 25 tackles in a rookie season. Idk There was a flash play here and there. I just don't see what's to be over joyed about. Victor had at one point early round draft potential. A down year and some other issues. I think he takes a little time to get there but I think he'll be the answer at some point going forward. Lee would be solid depth. I'm not saying he sucks, just that I'm anticipating Victor taking the role of starter. I doubt it. That’s about a toss up of warren being on the final roster edit: I ment he hasn’t shown much of anything. I believe Warren has a better chance. Lee Johnson don’t need much for mlb after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StocktonSav Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I have hopes and expectations that he will be a competent starter for us. I don't think he should be too harshly judged on his rookie year. He was a 5th rounder pushed into a starting spot on a bad defensive unit with a bad coordinator. A good coordinator with a coherent scheme in Guenther and more talent around him will help his development. But despite that, his physical limitations cap his ceiling at average starter IMO. More a byproduct of league pass happy trends. Nothing against him. There's nothing wrong with just ok for the time being if we can build around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 hours ago, StocktonSav said: I have hopes and expectations that he will be a competent starter for us. I don't think he should be too harshly judged on his rookie year. He was a 5th rounder pushed into a starting spot on a bad defensive unit with a bad coordinator. A good coordinator with a coherent scheme in Guenther and more talent around him will help his development. But despite that, his physical limitations cap his ceiling at average starter IMO. More a byproduct of league pass happy trends. Nothing against him. There's nothing wrong with just ok for the time being if we can build around him. Agree. I will happily take ‘average starter’ at one of the LB positions for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Lee Is already showing he can shed blocks, is good against the run, and is awareness is getting better so he is able to get to the right spot and make plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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