Lieker Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, craig said: I wonder if he can block? Monty as a 3rd down guy would be fun, as a pass-catcher, if he could block. If the new guy can block, interest goes way up for me! My thoughts exactly. That is one of the bigger knocks on Monty. Consistency in pass protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Jackson kid is obviously freaky. Too bad you can't get a hold of him with PS games left though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, Norm said: That's how undrafted players works you dolt. Of course 1/6 are serviceable starters. Get a grip on reality and stop pouting. No it's not how it's works. You don't put a UDFA on Julio Jones in the NFC Championship. Guess you didn't read my whole post, I said my problem with TT was his over use of UDFA to fill the backend of the roster instead of going with cheaper vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, St Vince said: No it's not how it's works. You don't put a UDFA on Julio Jones in the NFC Championship. Guess you didn't read my whole post, I said my problem with TT was his over use of UDFA to fill the backend of the roster instead of going with cheaper vets. Then you have an issue with every team that has injuries or constructs rosters. Our OL, DL (thought we kept a udfa here, was wrong), S, LB, RB, QB, TE. All the end of the backend of those is constructed with udfas instead of cheaper vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: They will probably wait until Matthews and Perry are on the shelf .. should be around week four or five IIRC, there have been a lot more trade deadline trades in the last couple seasons than there have been in the previous decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, St Vince said: No it's not how it's works. You don't put a UDFA on Julio Jones in the NFC Championship. Guess you didn't read my whole post, I said my problem with TT was his over use of UDFA to fill the backend of the roster instead of going with cheaper vets. Cheap vet who is on the backend of the roster is also going to get abused by Julio. You just don't want your fringe depth players starting regardless of how you acquired them. Injuries are not TT's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Norm said: "Who cares" They cry for pages and then they don't care when they have anything questioned lol. Just let them have it. It makes them feel warm and fuzzy we signed Korey ******* Toomer because he ran kind of fast 10 years ago. Just so we're clear, you're patting him on the back because he blew up at this: Monty is the only Packer left from the 2015 class. The class that should be coming into their own this year is non-existent. Better believe that hamstrings this team. Kenny Clark and Davante Adams are the only young stars out of Ted's last few draft classes. I'm sure you can find 10 teams who drafted just as poorly as Ted over the last 4-5 years. I could find 10 who did it better. Ted had some brilliant years. He's also had some terrible ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Ah the classic comparing of apples and grenades Even the dumbest guy in here could outdraft an NFL team if they get the first pick in every round compared to the last. Draft. Capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I don't think think Ted has had a single terrible draft considering where he's drafted in each of them and I'm the ******* because I understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cheech said: Just so we're clear, you're patting him on the back because he blew up at this: Monty is the only Packer left from the 2015 class. The class that should be coming into their own this year is non-existent. Better believe that hamstrings this team. Kenny Clark and Davante Adams are the only young stars out of Ted's last few draft classes. I'm sure you can find 10 teams who drafted just as poorly as Ted over the last 4-5 years. I could find 10 who did it better. Ted had some brilliant years. He's also had some terrible ones. I'm not really patting him on the back. I'm making fun of the people who let it be a Ted sucks thread until someone took the other side, then it wasn't allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said: Cheap vet who is on the backend of the roster is also going to get abused by Julio. You just don't want your fringe depth players starting regardless of how you acquired them. Injuries are not TT's fault I was curious what he wanted there? Gunter started as like cb5 or 6. "I'm mad at Ted he didn't have a cb6 who could cover the best wr in the NFL." Even if the idea is to sign someone late, who's around who can do that that late in the year, nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Rollins was cut, Rip is gone, they don't count for your argument. I don't have a horse in this race but your debate style of "I don't agree with you, so spend half an hour to research and name some hypothetical teams that did X better/worse than us" is so pointless. You're arguing opinions here, you really need to learn that yours aren't fact. Wow this is a terrible post. It’s entirely reasonable to ask people what reference frame they are using to arrive at their opinion or “feelings”. Just because people are too lazy to do that (or more likely afraid that doing it would prove their assertion to be BS) doesn’t mean it’s an unreasonable question. When people make a pompous assertion, they’re setting themselves up to be challenged, and if they don’t have anything to back up their assertion, don’t make the assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: They will probably wait until Matthews and Perry are on the shelf .. should be around week four or five Ha, we better hope not. At least we can rest easy a bit in that Gilbert has emerged to be a capable No. 3-4 guy it appears, however, our depth is pretty atrocious and to only have 4 guys on the roster, one of them being a guy who isn't even an EDGE player (Fack) is scary as hell.... I've applauded Gute for many of the moves he's made so far this off-season but his handling of the EDGE position, both in the draft and FA certainly is not one of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: I don't think think Ted has had a single terrible draft considering where he's drafted in each of them and I'm the ******* because I understand that. 2015 was terrible. ****. Cleveland literally has drafted 1/4 of the league's #2 QB's. Just because those QB's are still in the NFL doesn't mean Cleveland is good at drafting players and they just happened to not work out. Balls. No fricken team goes into a draft hoping to still have 1 player on their squad in 3 years. That doesn't mean that Ted was ever terrible at drafting. 2013 was fantastic. But, generally, Outpost, the team is hurting right now at starting positions because the results of the last 4 drafts have not replaced starters at the rate that we needed them to. Even over those four years, Ted was probably league average. But to act like the guy is flawless at drafting is absolutely silly. Just now, Norm said: I was curious what he wanted there? Gunter started as like cb5 or 6. "I'm mad at Ted he didn't have a cb6 who could cover the best wr in the NFL." Even if the idea is to sign someone late, who's around who can do that that late in the year, nobody. No one. The idea that Ted didn't use UFA enough should have died 4 years ago. (You have to have a touch of empathy for people who watched MD Jennings and McMillan try to play safety. That. Was. Painful. It caused irreversible trauma.) The same idea that he was God's gift in acquiring talent via the draft should have also died 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Again guy's I don't have a problem with UDFA. I had a problem with the overreliance of it during the TT era especially at the DB positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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