JAF-N72EX Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hurricanes773 said: Probably no JHoward included in deal... Ryan Nall released.... I'm guessing Amos if player was included since Obi flopped and was cut by Oakland I doubt Nall would be a deciding factor. If Nagy felt Cunningham could carry the hold while Cohen continues his role. Not that I think trading Howard would happen anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Totty said: Absolutely. This deal if we were going to do it SHOULD have been done before the draft to lessen the anguish. To not have a single thing to show for it until this time next year.... No. I would hope for a player that fills a need right now, then attempt to profit next offseason. Gotcha. Well, in the Raiders' defense, they probably felt good about Mack coming around and not holding out--back in the spring. Things are obviously different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, dll2000 said: After Daniels played good against KC there were tweets for him to start. thats because people are idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Totty said: Absolutely. This deal if we were going to do it SHOULD have been done before the draft to lessen the anguish. To not have a single thing to show for it until this time next year.... No. I would hope for a player that fills a need right now, then attempt to profit next offseason. At that point the Raiders didn’t know that the contract standoff would get to here and had the time window in their favor to maybe not even accept this deal in April even if offered then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 56 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: Haven't seen the lip sync battle with Emma, but gotta agree on the goddess part. Fallon's musical stuff is genius. Him singing "Whip My Hair" as Neil Young (accompanied by Bruce Springsteen portraying a younger Bruce Springsteen) is hilarious. Fallon as Jim Morrison, with The Doors doing a version of the Reading Rainbow theme is probably the coolest thing ever. I'm fine with that without the 3rd in return. I think if we're looking to get a pick back, it would be for a player younger than Trevathan, though. Ever thought you could get a chub listening to Blues Traveler? Now you can!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, JustAnotherFan said: Everyone is guessing LB's but watch it turn out to be Howard or something? Which I would actually feel a bit better about it. Why on earth would you feel better about trading Howard than one of our ILB's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricanes773 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 For the Bears faithful and GB haters... we have to think from management perspective in terms of comp... Draft picks are OVERVALUED to make the NFL world go round... when you get a chance to aquire a future HOF.. You do it!!! We can all past judgement as armchair GMs, but when you look at 1st round picks they are 50/50 hit or miss. If a QB only hits on 50% of his attempts he is out the league. Pace is a Gm that has endured KWhite in the 1st(health problems), LFloyd(health problems), Trubisky outperformed by Watson(handicapped by HC), KLong(health problems), Kyle Fuller(health problems until contract year)... There is not an exact science to building a SB Contender but Pace believes we are closer than ppl think.. On all the forums GB is trashing US after this trade with reference to Trubisky... NFL Final Four Last Season Bortles= JACKSONVILLE Keenum= MINNESOTA Foles= Philadelphia Trubisky projects to be better than all QBs mentioned aboved... The top 10 overachieving defense Fangio HAD has improved vastly by signing a TOP 3 defender in the league.. Team that had no wr last year now has a logjam in Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, and Wims.... White(if healthy and not included in the deal.) The RB depth chart is JHoward, Human Joystick, and Cunningham. I think this year the Bears get national recognition and improve greatly... When ppl say you still have to pay him... Who wouldn't pay a player on Defense that's makes the other 10 players that much better.. the only ppl that look for "bargain hunts" are Media and Fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, TankWilliams said: Why on earth would you feel better about trading Howard than one of our ILB's? People often were sayign he was a terrible fit for Nagy's offense, as if it is static and cannot be adapted - like Martz's system was due to him being a tard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikings209 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, AZBearsFan said: Thanks man. How do you feel about its potential impact on Cousins? Not too crazy about it. but i think we have enough talent on the team to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, JustAnotherFan said: Everyone is guessing LB's but watch it turn out to be Howard or something? Which I would actually feel a bit better about it. I wouldn't. Howard is a key player for this team and one of the more underrated RBs in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Trade official, source tells ESPN: Bears get: Khalil Mack, a 2020 second-round round pick and a conditional 2020 fifth-round pick. Raiders get: 2019 first-round pick, 2020 first-round pick, 2020 third-round pick, 2019 sixth-round pick. So Bears get back second-round pick, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, dafreak said: Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Trade official, source tells ESPN: Bears get: Khalil Mack, a 2020 second-round round pick and a conditional 2020 fifth-round pick. Raiders get: 2019 first-round pick, 2020 first-round pick, 2020 third-round pick, 2019 sixth-round pick. So Bears get back second-round pick, too Take this ALL DAY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, TankWilliams said: Why on earth would you feel better about trading Howard than one of our ILB's? 1) I don't think DT has enough trade value and I don't wanna lose Smith. 2) I don't see the Bears giving Howard a 2nd contract anyhow. 3) One-dimension RB's in the modern era don't have as much value and similar talent can be found in later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, dafreak said: Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Trade official, source tells ESPN: Bears get: Khalil Mack, a 2020 second-round round pick and a conditional 2020 fifth-round pick. Raiders get: 2019 first-round pick, 2020 first-round pick, 2020 third-round pick, 2019 sixth-round pick. So Bears get back second-round pick, too So: 2019: no 1, 2 or 6 2020: no 1 or 3, two 2 and maybe two 5? ALL. DAMN. DAY. ?????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, dafreak said: Bears get: Khalil Mack, a 2020 second-round round pick and a conditional 2020 fifth-round pick. Raiders get: 2019 first-round pick, 2020 first-round pick, 2020 third-round pick, 2019 sixth-round pick. That's much better. We still have a 3rd in 2019 and 2 2nd round picks in 2020 without giving up a player. I feel much better about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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