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https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/9/4/17812688/bengals-depth-chart-alex-redmond-to-start-at-right-guard-week-1-michael-johnson-remains-starter

Quarterback
Andy Dalton
Jeff Driskel

Running back
Joe Mixon
Giovani Bernard
Mark Walton
Tra Carson

Wide Receiver 1
A.J. Green
Josh Malone
Cody Core
Auden Tate

Wide Receiver 2
Tyler Boyd
John Ross
Alex Erickson

Tight End
Tyler Eifert
Tyler Kroft
C.J. Uzomah
Mason Schreck

Left Tackle
Cordy Glenn
Jake Fisher

Left Guard
Clint Boling
Christian Westerman

Center
Billy Price
Trey Hopkins

Right guard
Alex Redmond
Trey Hopkins

Right tackle
Bobby Hart
Cedric Ogbuehi

Defense

Left Defensive End
Carlos Dunlap
Sam Hubbard

Right Defensive End
Michael Johnson
Jordan Willis
Carl Lawson

Defensive Tackle
Geno Atkins
Ryan Glasgow

Nose Tackle
Andrew Billings
Josh Tupou

Strongside Linebacker
Nick Vigil
Vincent Rey

Middle Linebacker
Preston Brown
Hardy Nickerson

Weakside Linebacker
Jordan Evans
Malik Jefferson

Left Cornerback
Dre Kirkpatrick
Darqueze Dennard

Right Cornerback
William Jackson
Tony McRae
Darius Phillips

Strong Safety
Shawn Williams
Clayton Fejedelem

Free Safety
Jessie Bates III
Brandon Wilson

Punter
Kevin Huber

Kicker
Randy Bullock

Long Snapper
Clark Harris

Holder
Kevin Huber

Punt returner
Alex Erickson
Darius Phillips
Tyler Boyd

Kick Returner
Alex Erickson
Darius Phillips
Brandon Wilson

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Also, a tidbit from the article:

Jessie Bates will start, as expected, at free safety, making him the first Bengals rookie on defense to start in a Week 1 game since Rey Maualuga in 2009.

Geez, Marvin needs to be fired already...

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About as expected.

I'll be more interested in the snap counts following the game.

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50 minutes ago, theJ said:

About as expected.

I'll be more interested in the snap counts following the game.

We're getting smarter there.  I honestly don't have much if anything to complain about.  With the personnel we have, this is a good use.

Even Redmond over Westerman, I'm OK with for now.  Just hope we have a quick hook there...

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5 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said:

Even Redmond over Westerman, I'm OK with for now.  Just hope we have a quick hook there...

I doubt they'll make a change unless he's A) really really really really bad, or B) Redmond is hurt.  In season changes are rare, because coaches base those on practice.  And 2nd/3rd teamers don't get much practice time during the season.  

Westerman has likely missed his chance for 2018 (barring the two things above).

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2 minutes ago, theJ said:

I doubt they'll make a change unless he's A) really really really really bad, or B) Redmond is hurt.  In season changes are rare, because coaches base those on practice.  And 2nd/3rd teamers don't get much practice time during the season.  

Westerman has likely missed his chance for 2018 (barring the two things above).

I'll add a 3rd scenario, which I think is most likely for Redmond (if he got the hook).  Racking up penalties.  Coaches can get frustrated real quick as we saw when Redmond got pulled quickly in the 3rd preseason game after a false start and holding penalty in 2 drives...

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9 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said:

I'll add a 3rd scenario, which I think is most likely for Redmond (if he got the hook).  Racking up penalties.  Coaches can get frustrated real quick as we saw when Redmond got pulled quickly in the 3rd preseason game after a false start and holding penalty in 2 drives...

I think that's possible, but i think they'll go to Hopkins first either way...

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What happened with Fisher and Ogbuehi? I thought they were at one point all but guaranteed to be the successors to Whitworth and Smith? Did Bobby Hart play really well or something, or are they both largely disappointments? Something else going on? I kinda figured you guys would at least try Fisher at RT after signing Cordy.

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12 minutes ago, pwny said:

What happened with Fisher and Ogbuehi? I thought they were at one point all but guaranteed to be the successors to Whitworth and Smith? Did Bobby Hart play really well or something, or are they both largely disappointments? Something else going on? I kinda figured you guys would at least try Fisher at RT after signing Cordy.

Two huge disappointments. Doubling down on a position in the draft usually increases your odds of hitting a competent/great starter unless Paul Alexander is influencing the picks.

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3 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said:

Two huge disappointments. Doubling down on a position in the draft usually increases your odds of hitting a competent/great starter unless Paul Alexander is influencing the picks.

I feel you on that. We went DE/DE 1-2 in 2008, OT/OT 1-2 in 2009 and then DT/DT 1-3 (no 2nd rounder) in 2010 and came away with two good players, one of which we traded so we could play a bad rookie in his spot and the other who never became more than a good rotational player because he destroyed his knee in an Oklahoma drill before ever playing a down.


What do you guys think of your WR group? Is this year basically going to be Dalton throwing to Green and Eifert and hoping Ross or someone else develops into a WR2? Or is Boyd a legit #2 for you guys? Is Ross going to have a decent year out of the slot/in WR2 if promoted?

How does the OL look as a whole? Obviously adding Glenn and Price seem to be big time additions for that group, but are Boling and Redmond quality holdovers? Is Hart gonna be anything other than a one year mediocre player that gets replaced next year? Will they be able to open up some holes for Mixon, which hopefully allows Dalton to be the game manager that won you guys a bunch of games up through 2015?

Is that defense as good as advertised? You guys seemed to be forgotten as the third place defense behind Jacksonville and Minnesota last year, but it looks like you could have another good year there. Is Teryl Austin going to help them take a step forward? Adam Jones didn't look that good last year, so I assume you guys are confident in Jackson stepping up, but how's the Nickel Corner look? Is Bates going to be big game ready from the get-go or are you expecting some growing pains as he takes over for Iloka? Anybody in line for some major regression that might hurt the defense as a whole? 

 

This might not be the right thread for this, so @theJ should do his job and move it. ;)

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37 minutes ago, pwny said:

I feel you on that. We went DE/DE 1-2 in 2008, OT/OT 1-2 in 2009 and then DT/DT 1-3 (no 2nd rounder) in 2010 and came away with two good players, one of which we traded so we could play a bad rookie in his spot and the other who never became more than a good rotational player because he destroyed his knee in an Oklahoma drill before ever playing a down.


What do you guys think of your WR group? Is this year basically going to be Dalton throwing to Green and Eifert and hoping Ross or someone else develops into a WR2? Or is Boyd a legit #2 for you guys? Is Ross going to have a decent year out of the slot/in WR2 if promoted?

How does the OL look as a whole? Obviously adding Glenn and Price seem to be big time additions for that group, but are Boling and Redmond quality holdovers? Is Hart gonna be anything other than a one year mediocre player that gets replaced next year? Will they be able to open up some holes for Mixon, which hopefully allows Dalton to be the game manager that won you guys a bunch of games up through 2015?

Is that defense as good as advertised? You guys seemed to be forgotten as the third place defense behind Jacksonville and Minnesota last year, but it looks like you could have another good year there. Is Teryl Austin going to help them take a step forward? Adam Jones didn't look that good last year, so I assume you guys are confident in Jackson stepping up, but how's the Nickel Corner look? Is Bates going to be big game ready from the get-go or are you expecting some growing pains as he takes over for Iloka? Anybody in line for some major regression that might hurt the defense as a whole? 

 

This might not be the right thread for this, so @theJ should do his job and move it. ;)

I think the best description for the receivers is talented but upproven, and also balanced.  Each pf the top 6 brings specific skills to the group.  Green is Green, Boyd will be our new Sanu (getting reps inside and out), Ross is so quick and fast, I see them finding plenty of ways to get him open, and not just go routes, Malone is fast and can jump, Erickson in the slot catches anything he gets his hands on, and tate is a jump ball specialist with really stong hands.  Throw in Eofert and Kroft at TE, while also utilizing Gio Bernard and Mixon out of the backfield, and I think it all adds up to a lot of passing yards for Dalton, but noone out side of Green accumulating eye catching stats.

 

Te line has to be better with Glenn replacing Ogbuehi and Price replacing Bodine, even tho he's a rookie.  Boling is above average.  The coaches are high on Redmond, and if he can channel his inner rage, he will be fine.  Hart has been muchh better than he was in New York, but how that translates is anyone's guess.  It really can't be worse rthan last year with Fisher/Winston, so here's to hoping.

The defense is even stronger than last year.  The defensive line rotation is top notch.  Billings looks to be 100% after missing his rookie season with torn meniscus and looking rusty last season.  Lawson and Willis have a year's worth of NFL experience.  Jackson is a potential top 5-10 CB, and Brown offers dtability, if not splash, at MLB.  Once Burfict is back, I expect the defense to conitnue to rise in league wide standings.  Dennard is fine as the nickle CB.  I am hoping that with Austin's more aggressive approach, we actiuually get more turnovers, so get off the field a lot quicker and not give up as many overall yards.  The bend but don't break approach broke mid season as the defense was on the field far too much (horrible third down % on both offense and defense).  Hopefully the addition of Bates helps with INTs, but he is a lesser player as a tackler than Iloka.  Michael Johnson's reps should decrease, so his numbers should decline.  But so what?  He may be listed as a starter, but Willis, Lawson and now Hubbard will continue eating into his snap count.

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