steelcurtain29 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 If you had to chose which Big Four for your offense for one season, who do you go with? Falcons with Ryan, Freeman, Coleman and Julio or Steelers with Big Ben, Brown, Bryant and Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I choose the falcons because Ryan is younger and Big Ben said he's considering retirement. Though Bell>Coleman/Freeman. Brown>Julio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 For one season? Give me Pittsburgh. Brown is probably the best receiver in the league, Bryant is a good #2, Bell is up their in the top five (when healthy), and Ben has two rings on his resumé. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ6 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 As a Falcons fan Id go with the Steelers. Ryan = Big Ben Julio > Brown (I'm not sure why people think AB is better. Julio is firmly the #1 WR imo) Bell > Freeman Bryant > Sanu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalopy jamoke Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 these are equal offenses. completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Coleman is better than Bryant, which made me go with ATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, jarren said: As a Falcons fan Id go with the Steelers. Ryan = Big Ben Julio > Brown (I'm not sure why people think AB is better. Julio is firmly the #1 WR imo) Bell > Freeman Bryant > Sanu Because he continues to outproduce him and if Ryan = Ben then there really is no excuse. As a whole? The Steelers unit is more talented. But I think the Falcons unit can play better than the Steelers unit with the right coaching. If Matt Ryan buys into his coach/coordinator, he's dangerous. Whereas Ben doesn't always buy in and it effects the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ6 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, BlaqOptic said: Because he continues to outproduce him and if Ryan = Ben then there really is no excuse. As a whole? The Steelers unit is more talented. But I think the Falcons unit can play better than the Steelers unit with the right coaching. If Matt Ryan buys into his coach/coordinator, he's dangerous. Whereas Ben doesn't always buy in and it effects the team. Ryan is a really good QB but it terms of fully maximzing Julio his lack of long ball arm strength prevents him from taking full advantage of Julios elite deep field separation. For example against Carolina Ryan left 3 40+ TDs on the field because he couldnt hit Julio wide open deep downfield. Throws Big Ben can make with ease. Ryan also is way more conservative of a player than Big Ben. Ben is more than willing to check out of a 3rd and 1 run play and throw it deep to AB in single coverage. So while Ryan might be a better QB at winning games Ben might be better for the production of the teams #1. If Julio got to play with Big Ben he'd put up even better numbers than he is now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 4 hours ago, jarren said: Julio > Brown (I'm not sure why people think AB is better. Julio is firmly the #1 WR imo) No bias there, Im sure. Im not even saying he isnt better....there is certainly a strong argument. Julio has the clear physical advantage, but Ill take Brown's route running and short area quickness over Julio any day. Basically....while I have no issue with people saying Julio is better, he is not FIRMLY number 1. And no offense, but the QB excuse is getting old. All those years where Brown was clearly outproducing Julio, and thats all I heard about. If Josh Gordon can put up 1600+ yards with 4 garbage Browns QBs, there is no reason Julio shouldnt have been dominating in stats with Matt Ryan for years, especially if he is notably better than Brown, as you claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Went with the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcurtain29 Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 12 hours ago, jarren said: Julio > Brown (I'm not sure why people think AB is better. Julio is firmly the #1 WR imo) But Brown has more catches, barely less yards, nearly double the TD and a better catch rate (with less drops) the past three seasons... How is Julio "firmly" the #1 WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The Steelers have the better QB, RB, and their #1 WR actually gets in the endzone so them. 1 hour ago, steelcurtain29 said: But Brown has more catches, barely less yards, nearly double the TD and a better catch rate (with less drops) the past three seasons... How is Julio "firmly" the #1 WR? He's bigger. That's the only thing I can think of honestly. "theoretically" he is better even if Antonio outproduces him in the real world consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Ben > Ryan Bell > Freeman Brown > Jones Bryant > Coleman Clean sweep by the Steelers, straight up. Only problem is this isn't (or shouldn't be) judged in a vacuum. Ben's often injured and "contemplating" retirement, Bell's missed games in the past for suspension & injury while also being on the tag this year, and Bryant is Bryant. Meanwhile the Falcons' four are all very reliable (as long as JJ's early career injuries don't creep up, and Ryan plays well without Kyle). so for the purpose of sustainability, I'll take the Falcons comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Ben>Ryan Bell>>Freeman Brown~Julio Bryant>Coleman Not close IMO. If you add in Taylor Gabriel, Sanu, and others, things start to get a lot more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ben > Ryan Bell > Freeman Brown < Julio Bryant < Coleman Dang close but i'd go with the Steelers by virtue of they generally play tougher defenses and still produce roughly the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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