Tyronnosaurus Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The coaching is terrible. Garrett/Linehan should have been fired 3 years ago. But...Dak isn’t good. His awareness is exceptionally bad and he is one of the most inaccurate passers in the league. He had about 6-7 throws that he failed miserably that any of us could make. Pair that with an incompetent coaching staff? It’s an absolute disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I think you can make an very good argument that Dak has a bottom 3 worst weapons in the NFL all with the least innovative/incompetent/overrated coaching staff in the NFL. And then people wonder why he and/or the offense has digressed. It's amazing that people forget Dallas, under Dak. was one bone head-defensive play away from being a game out of the SB. All with Dak leading the way. Maybe Dak isn't the type of QB that can carry a bad team very far (how many can??) but judging Dak or any other QB under these circumstances is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, resilient part 2 said: I think you can make an very good argument that Dak has a bottom 3 worst weapons in the NFL all with the least innovative/incompetent/overrated coaching staff in the NFL. And then people wonder why he and/or the offense has digressed. It's amazing that people forget Dallas, under Dak. was one bone head-defensive play away from being a game out of the SB. All with Dak leading the way. Maybe Dak isn't the type of QB that can carry a bad team very far (how many can??) but judging Dak or any other QB under these circumstances is ridiculous. Did you see that throw to Jarwin in the 1st half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Did you see that throw to Jarwin in the 1st half? Name me your top five quarterbacks in the NFL now or all time and I'm sure I can get video of piss poor throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Not saying d a k doesn't have accuracy issues but under the current circumstances with players who don't regularly get open on a offensive scheme that seems to be predictable puts a lot of pressure on any quarterback and any quarterback will get antsy and Rush throws. That is a small problem but a much greater problem is this whole horrffic, predictable and incompetent coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: Name me your top five quarterbacks in the NFL now or all time and I'm sure I can get video of piss poor throws. Sure. Throughout the year maybe. Dak does it every game. Multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flyingmonkey30 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 hours ago, plan9misfit said: That’s a very fair assessment. I think this season will be a better indicator of his ability now that he’s without Baker Mayfield at QB. I’m always leery of college coaches whose base offense is the spread. I know that it’s being incorporated more and more into the NFL, but it’s not there yet. He certainly looks the part of a brilliant offensive mind, though. I think that's perfectly reasonable as well. And if he repeats and gets to the playoff again, I'll feel even better. I just really don't want a retread. Give me some new blood. David Shaw is a guy I'd look at too. Same with Defilippo (spelling?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 The problem is we have 2 more seasons with Dak then we have to start looking at hos total body work in order to make a decision on contract extension or franchising. How would you all proceed with that as it as it stands right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, textaz03 said: The problem is we have 2 more seasons with Dak then we have to start looking at hos total body work in order to make a decision on contract extension or franchising. How would you all proceed with that as it as it stands right now? As much as Dak has regressed, I do wonder what could be if he had a real QB coach and someone that could help him develop. He was a 4th round pick for a reason. In an ideal world Tony would still be the QB. If he continues to regress, I think you have to move on. Only other option is a new coaching staff who sees something in him and could help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtnldave Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, CAPJ said: As much as Dak has regressed, I do wonder what could be if he had a real QB coach and someone that could help him develop. He was a 4th round pick for a reason. In an ideal world Tony would still be the QB. If he continues to regress, I think you have to move on. Only other option is a new coaching staff who sees something in him and could help him. No chance. He does not get better from here, only worse. I feared this and put it in writing only 3 weeks ago. You can't teach accuracy. You can mask it, get a favorable pecentage perhaps, but it is something you either have or not. Trouble with Dak, outside of his accuracy, is that defenses have him figured out. Get him flustered or on the run to his right and it is either a turnover, sack or missed pass. What is really messed up is that our coordinators can't do anything to change it. Aggresive defense? Delayed draw, bubble screen, quick slant, etc. Draw them in, go right over their heads. It helps to set up deeper plays. But now we have accuracy issues. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think Dak can be a good QB in this league. I just don't think Garrett and this offensive staff are the coaches to get him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7188 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 5 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: Name me your top five quarterbacks in the NFL now or all time and I'm sure I can get video of piss poor throws. Name me five starting quarterbacks in the NFL who's had a stretch of throwing under 200 yards in 7 of their last 9 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenant Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Tony7188 said: Name me five starting quarterbacks in the NFL who's had a stretch of throwing under 200 yards in 7 of their last 9 games... Dak can be a good qb when everything is right around him. A qb who needs everything else right in order to just be good won't cut it in the NFL. When things arent right you get under 200 passing yards and an inability to function on offense. If we miss the playoffs I say we trade Dak for whatever we can get and then let our next coach have say in whatever new qb we draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, Tony7188 said: Name me five starting quarterbacks in the NFL who's had a stretch of throwing under 200 yards in 7 of their last 9 games... That's more on coaching and scheme than Dak IMO.In the meantime I just saw one of the top paid QBs throw for 4 picks. #only/Dak/makes/bad/throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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