DaBoys Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Yep 19-13 over the last two years. What a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Hey, remember that time when Brian Urlacher went public in “support” if his (then) failure of a QB Rex Grossman in order to be a good teammate as opposed to telling the truth that he wanted Grossman gone? Peppridge Farms remembers. Guys say things like this all the time. Hell, I wouldn’t be shocked if you found quotes from Bills players “supporting” Nathan Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Well everyone has had their say I will say this I think it would be in Dallas best interest to pay Dak 22-24 mil for 4-5 years then Zeke 29-32 mil for 5 -6 years I also don’t see paying Dak 24 is gonna prevent us from keeping others around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, quiller said: Well everyone has had their say I will say this I think it would be in Dallas best interest to pay Dak 22-24 mil for 4-5 years then Zeke 29-32 mil for 5 -6 years I also don’t see paying Dak 24 is gonna prevent us from keeping others around him. You aren't familiar with the RB market are you? And why are you even bringing Zeke up? I don't understand why he's the first guy on the chopping block for Dak fans. Like they are jealous of the love he gets. Please peruse: https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/ The 5th highest paid RB is making $8M per year The 15th highest paid QB is making $20M per year. We could afford two Zekes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, DaBoys said: You aren't familiar with the RB market are you? And why are you even bringing Zeke up? I don't understand why he's the first guy on the chopping block for Dak fans. Like they are jealous of the love he gets. Please peruse: https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/ The 5th highest paid RB is making $8M per year The 15th highest paid QB is making $20M per year. We could afford two Zekes. 1 Zeke will be getting much more than $8M. I highly doubt he'd accept anything short of making him the #1 paid running back in the range of $15M. To your point though, Dak will probably be close to double that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Zeke will be getting much more than $8M. I highly doubt he'd accept anything short of making him the #1 paid running back in the range of $15M. To your point though, Dak will probably be close to double that. Exactly. I wasn't suggesting Zeke will take 8. Just showing the disparity between QB money and RB money, while highlighting how cheap RBs are, and showing how ridiculous it is to fear we may pay Zeke $32M a year. Which was posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Good chance that DLaw and Byron cost more than Zeke in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 2:26 PM, Matts4313 said: Total Sacks: Dak 56, 41 not his fault = 73% OL fault Watson 62, 48 not his fault = 77% OL fault Wilson 51, 38 not his fault = 75% OL fault Mahomes 26, 16 not his fault = 62% OL fault Trubisky 24, 15 not his fault = 63% OL fault Its almost like once again @DaBoys, @plan9misfit, @The_Slamman and the brigade of haters are once again trying to scapegoat Dak for how crappy our OL is. This is hilarious. Dak sacks himself more than any other QB in the NFL (exactly what we have been arguing this whole time). Yet, Matts somehow tries to spin this into a positive. Well done Matts. Matts you also know that Dak also has the most fumbles in the NFL, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: Exactly. I wasn't suggesting Zeke will take 8. Just showing the disparity between QB money and RB money, while highlighting how cheap RBs are, and showing how ridiculous it is to fear we may pay Zeke $32M a year. Which was posted above. The difference is that Zeke truly is an NFL elite RB. Zeke is top 3 in his position. Dak isn’t elite. I’m okay with paying an elite player elite money. I’m not okay with paying average elite money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Matts4313 said: To keep Dak? Absolutely I would. Hell, I am not sure we should keep DLaw or Zeke anyways - - Lol Dak fan boys: "Dak is a winner. He can be good if he has a good team around him.." Also Dak fan boys: "I'm willing to let the entire team walk if we can just keep Dak." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Lol Dak fan boys: "Dak is a winner. He can be good if he has a good team around him.." Also Dak fan boys: "I'm willing to let the entire team walk if we can just keep Dak." It's so they continue to have an excuse when Dak plays horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, DaBoys said: Yep 19-13 over the last two years. What a winner. He is the 3rd most winningest QB since entering the league. 32 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Lol Dak fan boys: "Dak is a winner. He can be good if he has a good team around him.." Also Dak fan boys: "I'm willing to let the entire team walk if we can just keep Dak." You might be illiterate. Dak needs an OL. Not a "team". Hes already won without a defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Slamman said: This is hilarious. Dak sacks himself more than any other QB in the NFL (exactly what we have been arguing this whole time). Yet, Matts somehow tries to spin this into a positive. Well done Matts. Matts you also know that Dak also has the most fumbles in the NFL, right? I didnt try to spin it into a positive. Its a fact that Dak takes too many sacks. But it was an attempt to show you haters (you) that you are vastly overblowing it. Dak took about 1 more sack every *OTHER* game due to him holding the ball to long. But football morons were claiming it was 2-3 sacks a game that were his fault. It wasnt to take the fault of Dak for his mistakes. It was to show how dumb most fans are. And look at the list, all the more mobile (and or young) QBs were right there at the top. 1 hour ago, The_Slamman said: The difference is that Zeke truly is an NFL elite RB. Zeke is top 3 in his position. Dak isn’t elite. I’m okay with paying an elite player elite money. I’m not okay with paying average elite money. $25m isnt elite money. Its average starting QB on a 2nd contract money. Which is about what we will end up paying him. Zeke also plays a commoditized position. You know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Hey, remember that time when Brian Urlacher went public in “support” if his (then) failure of a QB Rex Grossman in order to be a good teammate as opposed to telling the truth that he wanted Grossman gone? Peppridge Farms remembers. Guys say things like this all the time. Hell, I wouldn’t be shocked if you found quotes from Bills players “supporting” Nathan Peterman. Is your debate that Dak isnt clutch and a winner? Or is it that he isnt cool under pressure and not a leader? Because right now you look once again like Clayton Bigsby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: He is the 3rd most winningest QB since entering the league. You might be illiterate. Dak needs an OL. Not a "team". Hes already won without a defense. To be clear, you are saying we can win super bowls with Just Dak and a OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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