TheVillain112 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 50 minutes ago, bigbadbuff23835 said: Watson and Mahomes are too high...for now. Jameis is wayyyyyyy too high. Everything else is ok Jameis I initially had in the Andy Dalton tier, but I do think he's better than that. Can't really argue though with anyone saying he's too high. As for Wentz, Watson, and Mahomes and the 'Next big thing' tier. I just think those guys are special. But to be transparent I did think that about Dak as well after his terrific playoff loss performance. So I can definitely be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Woof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Russell Wilson Philip Rivers Ben Roethlisberger Cam Newton Jared Goff Alex Smith Andrew Luck Patrick Mahomes Deshaun Watson Kirk Cousins Matt Ryan Matthew Stafford Case Keenum Derek Carr Jimmy Garoppolo Dak Prescott Sam Darnold Ryan Tannehill Ryan Fitzpatrick Joe Flacco Eli Manning Nick Foles Andy Dalton Josh Allen Mitch Trubisky Blake Bortles Tyrod Taylor Marcus Mariota Sam Bradford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, TheVillain112 said: Woof... Damn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1. Aaron Rodgers on one leg 2. Tom Brady 3. Drew Brees 4. Russel Wilson (+1) 5. Matt Ryan (-1) 6. Philip Rivers (+1) 7. Ben Roethlisberger (-1) 8. Cam Newton 9. Andrew Luck (+1) 10. Alex Smith (+1) 11. Kirk Cousins (+4) 12. Jared Goff 13. Matt Stafford (-4) 14. Jimmy Garoppolo (-1) 15. Deshaun Watson (-1) 16. Pat Mahomes (+4) 17. Derek Carr (-1) 18. Marcus Mariota (-1) 19. Joe Flacco (+6) 20. Andy Dalton (+2) 21. Eli Manning 22. Ryan Fitzpatrick (+9) 23. Ryan Tannehill (+3) 24. Nick Foles (-1) 25. Case Keenum (-1) 26. Dak Prescott (-7) 27. Sam Bradford (-9) 28. Blake Bortles (-1) 29. Sam Darnold 30. Tyrod Taylor (-2) 31. Mitchell Trubisky (-1) 32. Josh Allen Most of the guys who went +/- 1 outside of the top 7 didn't do so due to their own play, just based on someone moving ahead of them or falling behind them. I'm probably overthinking the 19-28 range. Pushing Prescott down 7 and Bradford down 9 both feel a little harsh, but I think its more due to me overrating them coming into the season than bad play. Darnold/Mahomes will rise if they keep it up. I expect Stafford to stabilize but if he doesn't he'll fall some more. Rivers/Roethlisberger are two who could yield their top ten spots to some of the younger guys if things don't go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 This is the worst list I've ever seen. Are you going SOLELY based off Week 1? Well, you must be if Matt Ryan is #31... If we are going by just Week 1, Rodgers should be #1, Brady should be #5, Carr should be #28 or so. Even if we are going by Week 1 PLUS body of work, Rodgers should still be #1, Brady should be #2, Carr should be around #13, and Matt Ryan should be around #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 T-1 Brady Rodgers Brees Ben RyanT-2 Wilson Rivers Stafford Luck Newton Carr T-3 Smith Wentz Goff Cousins Winston Dalton Keenum Tannehill Mariota Dak Manning Flacco Bortles Bradford Taylor FolesTBD Baker Arnold Jackson Watson Allen Mahomes Garoppolo Trubisky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, BayRaider said: This is the worst list I've ever seen. Are you going SOLELY based off Week 1? Well, you must be if Matt Ryan is #31... If we are going by just Week 1, Rodgers should be #1, Brady should be #5, Carr should be #28 or so. Even if we are going by Week 1 PLUS body of work, Rodgers should still be #1, Brady should be #2, Carr should be around #13, and Matt Ryan should be around #9. Oh ofcourse. On this forum, if a QB has 1 good week he is automatically a top-10 QB. Until the next if he has a bad game.....he's one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 9 hours ago, TheVillain112 said: Woof... So much context is missing from this still image. But that's typical media garbage fishing for clicks and retweets. What you're NOT seeing is at this particular second Mitch was just starting to set his feet. Had he have thrown that pass at this second...it would've been an off balanced throw and very inaccurate. Also, what this image does NOT show is the fact that Burton never sat in the zone....he kept going and by the time Tru got his feet set....he was out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: So much context is missing from this still image. But that's typical media garbage fishing for clicks and retweets. What you're NOT seeing is at this particular second Mitch was just starting to set his feet. Had he have thrown that pass at this second...it would've been an off balanced throw and very inaccurate. Also, what this image does NOT show is the fact that Burton never sat in the zone....he kept going and by the time Tru got his feet set....he was out of position. I posted the gif version in NFL Gen. And you're wrong. Trubisky just sucks at going through his progressions: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: I posted the gif version in NFL Gen. And you're wrong. Trubisky just sucks at going through his progressions: I wish I could have been in the film room when they looked at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: I posted the gif version in NFL Gen. And you're wrong. Trubisky just sucks at going through his progressions: Gotcha. I was looking at the play from the televised version. But FYI, this is not a progression issue.....it's a confidence and pressure issue - which is his biggest problem right now. He doesn't handle pressure plays very well and freezes. His confidence was shot after the play just before this one where he missed an open Robinson in the end zone. He saw him because he looked right at him and "sucks at progressions" would imply that he never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: Gotcha. I was looking at the play from the televised version. But FYI, this is not a progression issue.....it's a confidence and pressure issue - which is his biggest problem right now. He doesn't handle pressure plays very well and freezes. His confidence was shot after the play just before this one where he missed an open Robinson in the end zone. He saw him because he looked right at him and "sucks at progressions" would imply that he never did. You're probably right. Either way it was terrible. He has the arm strength to make that throw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: Maybe. Either way it was terrible... Agreed. He has alot of work to do and ALOT money already spent to build around him. if he fails....us Bears fans are going to be set back for another 5+ years. Now excuse me while I get a beer and think on that thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: Gotcha. I was looking at the play from the televised version. But FYI, this is not a progression issue.....it's a confidence and pressure issue - which is his biggest problem right now. He doesn't handle pressure plays very well and freezes. His confidence was shot after the play just before this one where he missed an open Robinson in the end zone. He saw him because he looked right at him and "sucks at progressions" would imply that he never did. I agree. Although I don't think he ever looked at Burton. He looked at two other players on the right. The one in front of Burton, and the right flat. Regardless, the tweet is incorrect. Trubisky did make 3 reads here. Unfortunately Burton was probably the 4th.. although a good QB would of saw Burton with vision/awareness but Trubisky is not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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