Thomas5737 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: Didn't Chandler Jones basically OD on some weed oil and run naked outside a police station? Sounds more like synthetic which can be some really bad stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VY-FTW Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Im upset. LIKE TRADE HIM TO THE NFC you dweebs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, buno67 said: The browns didn’t let him do whatever he wants. He has tried that twice. ‘14 and now. He got suspended for a game in ‘14 and costed him an accured year and this year it got him traded. Other teams the punishment was taken out of he hands of the team becuase he was breaking league rules Yeah... The Browns are not what I’d consider a stable organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: Yeah... The Browns are not what I’d consider a stable organization. Stable organization or not they stuck by his side and gave him as much help as possible and they never tried punishing him for His drug issues. That’s what the commish is for. They tried to get him help and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: Yeah... The Browns are not what I’d consider a stable organization. Gordon's problems predate Cleveland. The instability in Cleveland likely didn't help but let's not act as if he was a well adjusted, well behaved guy in college This is who he is. New England almost certainly won't change him. Can he lay off the drugs for a few months? Assuming, of course, that he's not using right now? Is he actually passionate enough about football to stay clean for 14-18 weeks? Probably not. He has shown repeatedly that he doesn't care enough to get/stay clean. Why would that change in a higher pressure environment with a much tougher coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarcerated_Scarface Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Plus Mass is a rec state now so he can get weed anywhere he wants. Not a good thing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 for followers of this thread, buno has been one of the most anti-gordon if not the most anti-gordon posters in the last years in the browns forum. the dude hates josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, mistakey said: for followers of this thread, buno has been one of the most anti-gordon if not the most anti-gordon posters in the last years in the browns forum. the dude hates josh. hey man my hate wasnt nearly as strong as it was in '14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Incarcerated_Scarface said: Plus Mass is a rec state now so he can get weed anywhere he wants. Not a good thing for him. Weed just isnt the issue. He has been suspended for Weed, Codeine, and alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, mcmurtry86 said: Gordon's problems predate Cleveland. The instability in Cleveland likely didn't help but let's not act as if he was a well adjusted, well behaved guy in college This is who he is. New England almost certainly won't change him. Can he lay off the drugs for a few months? Assuming, of course, that he's not using right now? Is he actually passionate enough about football to stay clean for 14-18 weeks? Probably not. He has shown repeatedly that he doesn't care enough to get/stay clean. Why would that change in a higher pressure environment with a much tougher coach? I think he might be clean. Now its other aspects of his personality that is showing up. I like it that you say he is now in a higher pressed environment with a much more demanding coach. It was rumored that he didnt want to start training camp because of the potential anxiety. That training camp can be overwhelming for him. Hence why he had to miss 2-3 weeks of it. If he couldnt handle Browns training camp, how is he going to handle a playoff run with the Pats. Hell his biggest issue prolly isnt drugs but he greedy business manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 15 hours ago, buno67 said: Dude the Browns didn’t Fail him. He failed the browns. He just never truly cared. He doesn’t care about football enough to put the effort that is needed. He’s not the first guy with character issues that the Browns couldn’t get on the straight and narrow. I get it, they were good to him and did everything to help him. But the Browns kinda feel like that bleeding heart teacher or mentor that the trouble maker student takes advantage of because they can always get a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, lancerman said: He’s not the first guy with character issues that the Browns couldn’t get on the straight and narrow. I get it, they were good to him and did everything to help him. But the Browns kinda feel like that bleeding heart teacher or mentor that the trouble maker student takes advantage of because they can always get a pass Browns have never had a player with the issues like Gordon had. When it came to drugs they tried to do whatever they could to help. This year his incidents weren’t with drugs just him being a moron and showing he doesn’t care about the team/football. So Dorsey said the hell with him. With his baggage and the way he is acting with what the browns did for him for training camp, you can’t blame for finally saying enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, buno67 said: Browns have never had a player with the issues like Gordon had. When it came to drugs they tried to do whatever they could to help. This year his incidents weren’t with drugs just him being a moron and showing he doesn’t care about the team/football. So Dorsey said the hell with him. With his baggage and the way he is acting with what the browns did for him for training camp, you can’t blame for finally saying enough is enough. Manziel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, lancerman said: Manziel Gordon had more issues. Just willing to be more lientent on a WR than QB. If Gordon was QB he be out of the league for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/browns-were-frustrated-josh-gordon-was-not-shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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