otg Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, iknowcool said: Are there any examples of players who had Hall of Fame-worthy careers with two different teams? I was trying to think if some exist because of the probable AB trade and wondering if he could do it considering his play-style and only being 30. Reggie White was the only one I could think of off the top of my head. Eagles (120 Games): 124 sacks, 18 FFs, 2 INTs, 7x Pro Bowler (6x First-Team All-Pro), 4 Postseason Sacks Packers (95 Games): 68.5 Sacks, 14 FFs, 1 INT, 6x Pro Bowler (2x First-Team All-Pro), 8 Postseason Sacks, including 3 sacks in a Super Bowl win Do they have to be prime with multiple teams or just have quality years on their resume? Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 hours ago, iknowcool said: Are there any examples of players who had Hall of Fame-worthy careers with two different teams? I was trying to think if some exist because of the probable AB trade and wondering if he could do it considering his play-style and only being 30. Reggie White was the only one I could think of off the top of my head. Eagles (120 Games): 124 sacks, 18 FFs, 2 INTs, 7x Pro Bowler (6x First-Team All-Pro), 4 Postseason Sacks Packers (95 Games): 68.5 Sacks, 14 FFs, 1 INT, 6x Pro Bowler (2x First-Team All-Pro), 8 Postseason Sacks, including 3 sacks in a Super Bowl win Steve Hutchinson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, vikingsrule said: Steve Hutchinson? I don't think he'd have the longevity with either. As I assume he means players where if you took their years with just team A, it was a hall of fame career, and if you took their years with just team B, it was a hall of fame career. Hutchinson basically played 4 years with Seattle. Had his rookie year, then a year he missed 12 games, and then 3 years at an elite level. We're basically looking at Carl Nicks career wise for that. It's a tough set of criteria to fill. Gotta be a hall of famer already, which makes it a short list in the first place. You really need to have had at least like a 16 year career. You need to have played for multiple teams. And I think it pretty much has to be two. Maybe three if the third was just a tacked on year at the end or something. Because it can't be the kind of guy who jumped around a decent amount like Moss, Sanders, or Owens as the stats are too spread out. The split between the two teams needs to be very equal, otherwise you get a Tony Gonzalez kind of split where 12 years with team A is probably enough, but the 5 with team B is likely too short. A lot of things need to fall right to make it work. Reggie White is probably the best contender. Charles Woodson is an interesting possibility, I think. Higher peak in Green Bay but 11 years in Oakland might have been enough accumulation to get in. Adam Vinatieri, if he keeps playing long enough with Indy, could've made it as a Patriot for the high profile kicks, and would've had a chance as a Colt by the way of field goal percentage and bulk stats. QBs are a little harder to predict with awards, but it honestly wouldn't shock me if a guy with Peyton's 4 year stretch in Denver, but nothing else, made the hall. Would be hard to not put in a QB with the league record in yards and TDs, and MVP, and a superbowl win. Even if their career only lasted 4 years. And Peyton's Indy career alone would definitely have warranted the hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 17 hours ago, iknowcool said: Are there any examples of players who had Hall of Fame-worthy careers with two different teams? I was trying to think if some exist because of the probable AB trade and wondering if he could do it considering his play-style and only being 30. Reggie White was the only one I could think of off the top of my head. Eagles (120 Games): 124 sacks, 18 FFs, 2 INTs, 7x Pro Bowler (6x First-Team All-Pro), 4 Postseason Sacks Packers (95 Games): 68.5 Sacks, 14 FFs, 1 INT, 6x Pro Bowler (2x First-Team All-Pro), 8 Postseason Sacks, including 3 sacks in a Super Bowl win Marshall Faulk was a perennial Pro Bowl RB in Indianapolis for 5 years before being an MVP/All Pro caliber guy in St. Louis. Deion Sanders was fantastic in Atlanta and Dallas, not to mention his pit stop in San Francisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPatrickMahomes15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I wonder if the Steelers would accept Sammy Watkins, a 2nd round pick, and next year's 1st for AB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, MVPatrickMahomes15 said: I wonder if the Steelers would accept Sammy Watkins, a 2nd round pick, and next year's 1st for AB? They would take it and laugh all the way to the bank. What an overpayment by the Chiefs. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPatrickMahomes15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RaidersAreOne said: They would take it and laugh all the way to the bank. What an overpayment by the Chiefs. I was starting to think this myself the more I thought about it. But I haven't looked into his value or any rumors. What do you think they could get away with giving away with draft picks if Watkins was part of the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchDJ Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I honestly think Vic Fangio will end up being the worst HC hire this past offseason. I do not like the thought of hiring a 60 year old DC turned 1st time HC on a team that has really been strained by their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Jason Witten is coming out of retirement from the looks of it. If he can play at the level he can play at that's a huge thing for Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otg Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, tom cody said: Jason Witten is coming out of retirement from the looks of it. If he can play at the level he can play at that's a huge thing for Dallas. I have little doubt that he can play at the level he can play at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPatrickMahomes15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Also I don't care if that's an overpay the Chiefs need to pull the trigger and get AB. Even if it means sweetening the deal early before other teams can decide to get involved. Andy Reid has managed media attracting, egocentric WR's before and could easily earn the respect of AB. And AB wouldn't have any problems putting up numbers in our offense alongside Hill and Kelce. You can't tell me with a healthy AB that the Chiefs won't win the super bowl. You just can't. We lost the championship on a coin flip because our offense got out to a slow start with the Patriots doubling Tyreek Hill. Good luck trying to pull that **** once we got Brown. Us having Watkins who is on a low risk contract but keeps the Steelers passing game dynamic also makes for a perfect trade frame work. Edited February 28, 2019 by MVPatrickMahomes15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, MVPatrickMahomes15 said: Also I don't care if that's an overpay the Chiefs need to pull the trigger and get AB. Even if it means sweetening the deal early before other teams can decide to get involved. Andy Reid has managed media attracting, egocentric WR's before and could easily earn the respect of AB. And AB wouldn't have any problems putting up numbers in our offense alongside Hill and Kelce. You can't tell me with a healthy AB that the Chiefs won't win the super bowl. You just can't. We lost the championship on a coin flip because our offense got out to a slow start with the Patriots doubling Tyreek Hill. Good luck trying to pull that **** once we got Brown. Us having Watkins who is on a low risk contract but keeps the Steelers passing game dynamic also makes for a perfect trade frame work. You are ignoring other teams moves. Patriots won the SB with WR busts and Lacrosse players. Imagine if they actually get some decent wide receivers. The Colts have a **** ton of cap room and are only going to get better. Chargers get Henry and Bosa back for a full season. So if everything stays the same and the Chiefs add AB, yes they would likely win the SB but plenty more things are to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPatrickMahomes15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, SBLIII said: You are ignoring other teams moves. Patriots won the SB with WR busts and Lacrosse players. Imagine if they actually get some decent wide receivers. The Colts have a **** ton of cap room and are only going to get better. Chargers get Henry and Bosa back for a full season. So if everything stays the same and the Chiefs add AB, yes they would likely win the SB but plenty more things are to change. The Patriots are done and you can have all of the cap space in the world but I still don't see how you stop Mahomes, Brown, Kelce, and Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, MVPatrickMahomes15 said: The Patriots are done and you can have all of the cap space in the world but I still don't see how you stop Mahomes, Brown, Kelce, and Hill. Your hope isn't very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPatrickMahomes15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, SBLIII said: Your hope isn't very realistic. Why not? Watkins makes just a little less than AB but can be cut after next season with no loss if the Steelers decide to move on. The deal makes a ton more sense than any others that have been rumored. Showtime Mahomes and Showtime Brown. The Chiefs then become the bad guys and win, win, win, and win some more until people are sick of it. And then we win, again. And again. And again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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