GW21 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Gruden likes old players, maybe we could package Garçon and a pick for Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I really don't have a ton of interest in Cooper all told to be honest. Just something about him that bugs me. I don't know. Something is missing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustrianNiner Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I mean hands were his only (but a big) issue, still weird how McDonald has turned into such a go to guy in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalNiner Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 What would Cooper's value even be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, SoCalNiner said: What would Cooper's value even be? My gut says they would want a second, which is too high for me. Cost is probably the deciding factor for me to make any deal for Cooper because I just don't love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, AustrianNiner said: I mean hands were his only (but a big) issue, still weird how McDonald has turned into such a go to guy in Pittsburgh. It's annoying. Its not like they are using him differently or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Forge said: It's annoying. Its not like they are using him differently or anything. It helps not having to catch fast balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Justone2 said: It helps not having to catch fast balls. It's not like Vance was any better without Kaep though either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Forge said: It's not like Vance was any better without Kaep though either. He was slightly better with Gabbert if i remember correctly. But then you have the deal that Gabberts placement was all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 McDonald wasn't doing anything here. Not even breaking tackles like he's doing in Pittsburgh. All he did was drop passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridirongreat#9 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Man Frankie G still has that burst. He should have been resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Looks like the Giants and the Raiders will be looking to draft a QB early. I don't think Carr is going to be around next year. Then again, it's Gruden. Hard to see him using first rounder on a quarterback based on his history. Maybe he tries to get a veteran. Edited October 14, 2018 by PapaShogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Looks like the Giants and the Raiders will be looking to draft a QB early. I don't think Carr is going to be around next year. Then again, it's Gruden. Hard to see him using first rounder on a quarterback based on his history. Maybe he tries to get a veteran. Yeah, I feel like Teddy B could be that guy for Gruden. I know that the Saints had designs on probably keeping Teddy B as the heir after Brees, but I'm certainly not convinced Brees is going anywhere at this point while he's still playing at a high level. If he doesn't retire, there's no shot that he's back with them next year. He seems ideal for what Gruden would want - very good intermediate and short accuracy, WCO type quarterback. He's also a veteran and this would allow for the Raiders to still use their first pick on someone like Nick Bosa to create a pass rush. I had joked a few weeks ago about Carr getting traded just because the contract could be moved, but can absolutely see it now and I think it's more and more likely. I'm giving it a 50/50 shot. The contract is easily tradeable on both ends - his base salaries are really low for a starting quarterback (19 mil for the next few years), and he has limited dead money, so there's no real damage to the Raiders. Bridgewater can probably be had for a Mike Glennon type deal from last year. The giants have some talent on the roster outside of quarterback and offensive line, so it makes a lot of sense for them to grab a quarterback and try to fix the line and be immediately competitive (which they may not be if they have to draft a rookie quarterback). The Giants can then use their first round pick on something other than a quarterback - perhaps even trade down (I don't know that there is an offensive lineman worth a top three pick) for someone who may want Bosa (if they have the first pick) or Oliver or someone else (if they end up at 2-4) and recoop some of that draft capital they give up for Carr. It's just such a logical scenario in my opinion that both of these teams should be on the phone about it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Trent brown looked very good tonight.. how that guy was a 7th round pick I will never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 hours ago, N4L said: Trent brown looked very good tonight.. how that guy was a 7th round pick I will never understand. Scouts probably thought he was too thick and plodding to ever be useful outside. While he may very well be both thick and plodding, he's still a large mountain to try and get around. That, and the refs typically won't flag NE lineman cuz League must prop up BB and Tommy long as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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