Gannon12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, riceman80 said: we overdrafted him The holy Reggie Mantra. Soooo tired of the over drafting and skipping the BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 We didn't. But whatever suits your narratives, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Dessie said: I’m confused. First you say Hall is part of a solid draft class now you he’s been invisible? I like the long-term potential of the class but they've definitely underperformed this year. The game should slow down for Hall, Miller, and Parker as they gain strength and experience in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: I like the long-term potential of the class but they've definitely underperformed this year. The game should slow down for Hall, Miller, and Parker as they gain strength and experience in the league. I'm really worried about Parker. He's not struggling, he's getting destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: I like the long-term potential of the class but they've definitely underperformed this year. The game should slow down for Hall, Miller, and Parker as they gain strength and experience in the league. I wouldn’t say they’ve underperformed. Almost all the guys have had extensive playing time this year because of the losses that have come from the Mack trade. When the Raiders drafted Key the expectation was he’d be a 3rd down guy with Mack somewhere on the line along with Irvin. Hall and Hurst probably wouldn’t have played as much either due to Mack being on the field. But the trade happened, and everyone became starters full time. No time develop just thrown in the deep end. Same can be said about Miller and Parker. Both guys weren’t originally supposed to start but Giacomni was garbage and Penn went to IR thrusting these tackles into starting roles prematurely. Both tackles where supposed to get a year on the bench to learn techniques and build strength. That was the story: the Raiders had projects but it was okay because they had starters ahead of them. Through both idiotic coaching decisions and injuries the Raiders lines hit a perfect storm of garbage play. The rookies where never supposed to be ready now, they showed up early but have fallen off as the season has progressed. Except Townsend...he just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Cable is terrible oline coach. No judgements should be made until he's gone and real coach is here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, roi34 said: Cable is terrible oline coach. No judgements should be made until he's gone and real coach is here For real... if Gruden can't objectively look at how terrible the Oline has become and how it's effected his QB play and let go of that bum, I can't buy anything he's doing as a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, big_palooka said: For real... if Gruden can't objectively look at how terrible the Oline has become and how it's effected his QB play and let go of that bum, I can't buy anything he's doing as a leader. Will Gruden’s ego allow him to admit he made a mistake hiring Cable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, roi34 said: Cable is terrible oline coach. No judgements should be made until he's gone and real coach is here Same thing could be said for KNJ. This was easily a top 15 defense once KNJ was fired and Pagano took over. But we did not retain Pagano and dismantled the D. The defense could have been really good this year with a couple moves but Gruden decided he wanted his guys even though he has very little to do with that side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Chali21 said: Hall and Hurst probably wouldn’t have played as much either due to Mack being on the field. But the trade happened, and everyone became starters full time. No time develop just thrown in the deep end. Hall and Hurst were both expected to play from day one, they were brought in to take some of the pressure off of Mack by finally giving us a legitimate interior pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: Will Gruden’s ego allow him to admit he made a mistake hiring Cable? He could be Gruden’s sacrificial Dennis Allen. At least I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Bowman and pagano should of been back. But we need players on defense. Bosa another pass rusher and Josh Allen work for me in first two rounds with a top olineman mixed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinBran Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Man.... when did our OL become so bad? We still have the same 3 guys in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 This is what I don’t get. They were the strength of the team and I don’t think you can blame it all on zone schemes. Our guards are getting killed on pass plays as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinBran Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, NJ Raider said: This is what I don’t get. They were the strength of the team and I don’t think you can blame it all on zone schemes. Our guards are getting killed on pass plays as well. I thought Gabe Jackson was at least average but I see him consistently knocked on his butt a majority of plays. And what is the deal with KO? Is he still hurt? He has been terrible. Hudson is the only bright spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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